Part 2: What really happened ....11 september

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TorontoTrader2, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. EHEHEH :D :D :D :D

    you are so dumb :p

    its ok, lethargic american way of living makes you a numb idiot

    hey I am a victim of that life myself

    the only way out, is if you are lucky enough to experience lot of pain

    that will open your eyes,

    but that too is pointless, since you'll just die at the end
     
    #31     Feb 7, 2007

  2. A whole 8 hours? What slivers of slivers?

    No reasonable person could suggest, the full release, even at a "less sensitive" time, of all aviation authority recordings and pentagon video, would be too much to ask.
    Nor, to have not quashed numerous lawsuits/investigations into the matter, by official decree.

    You dont need a conspiracy, or even a "theory" with that many vested interests.



    You just need a chequebook.
     
    #32     Feb 7, 2007
  3. Ahh... don't go blaming America for your lethargic way of living
    which has apparently made you a numb idiot...:D
     
    #33     Feb 7, 2007
  4. oh I am an idiot alright

    its just that.........you guys are way bigger idiots
     
    #34     Feb 7, 2007
  5. Well duh. We all saw WTC7 free fall.



    NYPD Officer Heard Building 7 Bombs
    "The whole time you're hearing boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I think I know an explosion when I hear it"


    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet
    Saturday, February 10, 2007

    Following our reports this week about three different ground zero rescue workers who all testified that they were told Building 7 was to be brought down, yet more revealing testimony has come to light - this time from a former NYPD officer and first responder, who states that he clearly heard bombs tear down Building 7 as he ran away from its collapse.

    NYPD officer Craig Bartmer awoke on 9/11 to images of the World Trade Center burning. Knowing colleagues who worked inside the towers, he immediately headed for ground zero to help with the rescue efforts. He is now suffering from respiratory illnesses as a result of the toxic dust inhaled at the site. Bartmer was in the immediate vicinity of Building 7 before its collapse at approximately 5:20pm.

    It is worthwhile to watch the entire 27 minute video interview below (conducted by Dylan Avery of Loose Change) but in the context of this article, Bartmer's comments on the subject of Building 7 alone are transcribed after the jump.



    BARTMER: "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did -- and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I don't know what the fear is coming out and talking about it? I don't know -- but it's the truth."

    [...]

    BARTMER: "I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though. Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any... I didn't hear any creaking, or... I didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming 'get away, get away, get away from it!'... It was at that moment... I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself... Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the shit's hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they're saying... Nothing to account for what we saw... I am shocked at the story we've heard about it to be quite honest."

    Later in the film, Bartmer highlights the possibility that the attack was run from Building 7, as former German technology minister Andreas von Buelow has also postulated, and that it was then demolished to destroy the evidence.

    BARTMER: "If the means and the motive are they where would they pull it off from? The Office of Emergency Management was in Building 7. That was a hardened bunker built to withstand just about anything that New York would face. That building had a lot of important shit in it and there was enough stuff in that building to bury evidence on other fronts - financial records, government records. There's no way that that just fell down on its own, I don't believe it."

    Click here for an MP3 audio clip of Bartmer's statements.



    Elsewhere in the interview Bartmer states his incredulity at how fast the Building 7 site was cleaned up compared to the rest of ground zero. He dismisses the 9/11 commission report as a farce and demands a new real investigation.



    The criminals who perpetrated and covered up 9/11 have a growing problem on their hands in that the very heroes who led the rescue efforts are now dying as a result of the government's lie in telling them ground zero air was safe to breathe in the days after the attack.

    The fact that the authorities were deceptive in the very hours and days after the event itself has led many who were there to question every other facet of the official story.

    It is important to stress that everywhere we turn there are statements from firemen, NYPD officials, EMT's and others who were involved in the rescue efforts attesting to the fact that Building 7 was brought down deliberately and that bombs were heard in all three buildings. During the five year anniversary protests at ground zero, a plethora of firemen and police echoed similar sentiments but few are prepared to go on the record. However, the fact that they and many of their friends are now dying in large numbers as a result of government deception is encouraging more to come forward.
     
    #35     Feb 10, 2007

  6. They bomb the arabs and kill their bodies in the Middle East. In the west they bomb our brains and kill our minds. All the shit we see coming out of Hollyweird is a well thought out dumbing down process. The Iranians fucked up by liberating the Babylonian slave horde and unleashing it onto humanity.
     
    #36     Feb 10, 2007
  7. Ah, I see. So it's the jews who are responsible for the dumbing down of America. And I suppose it's the coca farmers who are responsible for those who rob and kill for money for their drugs? Is it the theoretical physicists who are responsible for Hiroshima? Is it the computer scientists who are resposible for internet porn?

    You have never made a single post that shows more clearly the fallacy of your distorted way of thinking than this one. No wonder you are constantly proposing fantasy theories to support your blame-game ideas. You have no comprehension of the ideal of personal accountability. You seek to blame others for your failures, because you don't have the balls to look yourself in the mirror and take the steps necessary to make yourself a man. Predictable, you pick the Jews.

    Fucking pathetic loser.
     
    #37     Feb 10, 2007
  8. #38     Feb 10, 2007


  9. Occams razor says you're a returded papertrader :D

    Now let's hear from a REAL military expert. A 2 star american General!


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    That's right. What is going on?

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
     
    #39     Feb 10, 2007
  10. What happened 9/11/01? Two planes flew into the WTC causing the building to collapse thereby killing 3000 people. That's it! That ain't even the story, or the crime.
    The crime is the Bush administration willfully ignoring intel prior to the attack. There was growing evidence of an immediate threat and they poo poohed it. They knew something was coming and did virtually nothing to prevent it. The actual event was irrelevant.
    Tell me, do you think the events following 9/11 to where we are now would be any different had the WTC NOT collapsed? Would it have made a difference if only 300 had died instead of 3000? Would it have even mattered if some other buildings had been hit? Not a chance! Any terrorist event would have done, they knew a big one was coming, and they did nothing to prevent it. That's the crime!
     
    #40     Feb 11, 2007