Pandemic has killed globalisation, says Carmen Reinhart

Discussion in 'Economics' started by themickey, May 21, 2020.

  1. BAT31

    BAT31

    Many examples, huh? Okay.

    To answer you question, it depends.

    Two dollars seems like a decent compromise, on paper. However, I suspect that the large majority of Americans have become too accustomed to Walmart prices, and would object to paying Macy's-like prices. Who knows? I could be wrong.

    At the end of the day, we are talking about the decisions ultra capitalists, here. I just don't see them forgoing cheap labor in Southeast Asia and repatriating manufacturing back to the United States.

    Think about it. Is a capitalist comfortable replacing a foreign worker who's comfortable with (or coerced by the CCP) making one or two dollars a day, for an entitled American demanding seven to eight times that much, along with health benefits, and annual raises, and if he/she doesn't get it, they will shutdown production? I think not.

    Once the pandemic passes, the economy reopens and the anger subsides, we will resume our addiction/demand for cheap crappy shit made in China, and everyone will kiss and make up.
     
    #41     May 23, 2020
  2. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    I’m not saying you are wrong. I’m just saying you ain’t necessarily right.
    Yes Capitalism rules and so does the almighty dollar, etc.
    But that might be pre 2020 thinking.
    China is fucked. Many countries will be telling them to take a flying leap. I’ll pay $2 for the local garlic over the 50 cent Chinese version. Also will pay $800 for a bike for my kid rather than the $200 POS from Nanjing.

    How many times are we willing to accept China poisoning and killing us before we cut them off at the knees?

    While memories may be short...so is life. And the fucking Chinese are seeing to that.
     
    #42     May 23, 2020
  3. BAT31

    BAT31

    Yes, with regard to global sentiment, China is fucked, and deservedly. Several countries have raised the question of whether they should remove China from their supply chain?

    China is just a bad actor in the world, both at home and abroad.

    Sometimes, I ask myself, for a country that has the second biggest economy, and has established themselves as a competitor in several arenas (tech, business, economics), they sure do some stupid shit.

    If you think their poisoning of the world is bad, you should see how they poison their own. Remember the baby formula poisoning from 12 years ago? Recently, children's heads began swelling because they mislabeled protein shakes as baby formula. WTF?

    China is supposedly in the race to develop a COVID-19 vaccine. If they are first to develop a vaccine, I will be (last + 1) in taking it.

    The question remains, when will the world grow tired of China's bullshit?
     
    #43     May 23, 2020
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  4. In the Great Depression after the 1929 market collapse, countries around the world engaged in trade wars and currency depreciation in order to gain an edge over each other. In US, the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act was passed in 1930. The Act and tariffs imposed by America's trading partners in retaliation were major factors of the reduction of American exports and imports by 67% during the Depression. Economists and economic historians have a consensus view that the trade wars exacerbated the Great Depression.
     
    #44     May 24, 2020
  5. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    China is doing like any other country, acting in their own interests. If that makes them a "bad" actor so be it.
     
    #45     May 25, 2020
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Agree.

    As well money (consumers money that is) flows to the lowest cost provider of goods and services. Whether or not those providers happen to be Commies.
     
    #46     May 25, 2020
  7. BAT31

    BAT31

    I am all for China acting in its own interest, but unfortunately your comment is just dumb. It's dumb for the following reasons.

    1. Hiding the fact that there was an outbreak. When outbreaks occur, a RESPONSIBLE country reports that shit.

    2. Running over protesters with tanks is not cool.

    3. Exporting blood pressure pills with cancer-causing ingredients is unconscionable.

    4. There are plenty more examples where China's actions are dangerous to both its citizens and the world.

    Again, a your comment is dumb.
     
    #47     May 25, 2020
  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    ... dead on.

    Meanwhile your response is dumb. I'll leave it at that.
     
    #48     May 25, 2020
  9. Zalak

    Zalak

    It seems to me that one can really agree with this.
     
    #49     May 29, 2020