Palin A "Whack Job," Top McCain Adviser Says

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ZZZzzzzzzz, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. One of John McCain's advisers recently called his running mate Sarah Palin a "diva" after she went off-script at a rally, and suggested she was looking after her own political future over the current campaign. Now another adviser ups the ante in a conversation with the Politico's Playbook, labeling Palin a "whack job."

    Meanwhile, Dana Milbank reports on more signs of division between McCain and his running mate on the stump:

    "Sarah Oh-Twelve!" bellowed a man in field coat and jeans, one of several thousand at the Leesburg rally, when Palin spoke about her tax policies yesterday.


    The oh-twelve message, if mathematically flawed, seemed to capture the crowd's sentiment. There were "I [Heart] Palin" bumper stickers on cars, "Team Sarah" T-shirts in pink, "Sarah!" pins and countless signs: "You Go Girl." "You're in Palin Country." "Maverick Barracuda." One of the souvenir vendors said his most popular offering was a pin showing Palin next to a pit bull and the usual "McCain-Palin" logo reversed, with her name first and in larger letters.

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    The diva made sure to spend some time on her "own track record" in Alaska, particularly all the taxes she cut. "Sarah! Sarah!" the crowd chanted.

    "So, Virginia, will you hire us?" she asked. "Will you send us to Washington?"

    "Yes, we will! Yes, we will!"

    In 2012, that is.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/palin-a-whack-job-top-mcc_n_138523.html
     
  2. Sounds like they're already conceding defeat from this loser ticket and she is trying to distance herself fromthe geriatric wonder! :eek: :)
     
  3. Maybe.

    Quite honestly, I have never fully understood why so many republicans who supported Bush for so long, who hated McCain, have been so taken with this woman.

    If they truly believe she is going to be the savior of their party, something is seriously wrong.

     
  4. Ever consider that you'd don't see certain truths through your partisan glasses?
     
  5. Yes, I have considered that, but even before you knew anything about this woman you and your ilk had gone gaga...it reminded me of Obamamania, which if you recall I was dead set against when that tide began to roll. It comes along at times when people think and behave completely irrationally, when you point of the flaws in their thinking or in this case the pure unfiltered adoration of a politician as if their shit don't stink that the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. All I see in this campaign is 4 candidates, 3 of which are very driven to have power, 1 of which is not that driven (Joe Biden). Anyone who is mad for power deserves to be distrusted. McCain reshaped his image to get nominated, meaning he betrayed his own true self. Obama, I am not sure at all what his true self is. I don't buy that he is the savior, or the anti-Christ that you portray him to be. He just seems like a very smart politicians who wants power...God knows why he wants the power, but he wants it passionately. Palin is just as driven to have that power, at the expense of her family along the way.

    These are people to be trusted and admired?

    None of these people have done anything worthy of admiration, beyond McCain, and that was so long ago that it is not really relevant to the current job he is running for.

    No vetting process had been done when it came to Palin, no flaws were spotted by you or your Palinites, it was like watching some teenager fall in love....like watching the Paulites.

    Simply not to be trusted, politicians are not to be trusted...they are to be hired to do a job, and then scrutinized as much as possible to keep their lust for power in check.

    The republicans may really rue the day that the Patriot Act was passed, as a man like Obama could abuse that power just as easily as Bush and Cheney have done, making people like you a target for their own agenda...

    Sorry mate, but I don't believe you really think things through beyond a move or two...


    Your comparison to her and Buchanan is so absurd. Buchanan has always been his own man, and has truly been a thinker and a genuine maverick from the party regulars.

    Palin doesn't fit that mold at all. She is not a thinker, she is not a decent writer, she initially abandoned herself to run as VP at any and all costs to herself and her family.

    Just because you want to bone some MILF doesn't mean that she is in any way qualified to be president.

     
  6. The lobbyists and party hacks inside McCain's campaign are probably trying to lay the groundwork to blame Palin if they lose. They don't want to have to deal with her in 2012. She is too independent and reminds conservatives of Reagan too much for their comfort.
     
  7. No she's not some great thinker. Few woman are. Women synthesize what they learn from men.

    She's just smart enough though to be WAY ahead of the curve on the emerging national issues. Fiscal problems due to pension obligations are crippling municipalities and the states. The problems will become more acute in the next couple of years. Those local funding issues will cause the electorate-at least the tax paying electorate- to view the Federal government's excesses with increasing suspicion. The growing gap between public and private compensation, the inability for service government to provide essentials while held at bay by the runaway costs of entitlement government, perhaps even inflation/purchasing power calamities brought upon by deficits and monetary policy.

    A detached mind-free from life in Washington or Chicago-views the Federal role as something that needs to be deemphasized not expanded. We're going through hard times. I suspect they'll get worse. What makes this time different is the lack of elasticity in credit markets. Palin's quasi secessionist, anti elitism message is as powerful with white middle class voters as is Obama's socialist message to lower income black/brown and white voters.

    I have little doubt that there's a substantial number of Obama voters who will become disenchanted with his policy decisions and become Palin populists in 2012. Reagan laid out there in the weeds a couple of election cycles too before the electorate caught up with his message.



     
  8. "No she's not some great thinker. Few woman are. Women synthesize what they learn from men."

    Well, now I can add sexist to continuing list of racist, homophobic, bigoted, and the many other chronic mental illnesses you suffer from...

    As far as Palin in 2012 goes, you are comparing Carter to Obama. Carter was a genuine idealist...Obama is nothing of the kind. Obama is a chamelon, and what drives Obama is not what I believe is a principled view of the world, but a view of the world in which he can be viewed as popular.

    Both the extreme right and the extreme left are likely to be quite angry with Obama come 2012, but that was also the case with Clinton...

    I see Obama as a 2 termer, simply because his number one goal of his first term will be to get a second term. That was, and is never the goal of a true idealist...someone who would prefer to go down with the ship than deviate from their own personal base.

    Bush? No personal base. Same with Clinton. Reagan, my God, he was an actor. Nixon? So driven he broke the law when he didn't even have to in order to get a second term...

    You underestimate what Obama is really all about if you think he is not going to go the populist route in his first term for the goal of a second term....

     
  9. Ask Larry Summers, I'm sure he'll have some prominant role in the Obama Cabinet. Maybe Czar of Transaction Tax......
     
  10. No, no-I couldn't agree more. Without doubt Obama/Axelrod will use the very time honored Daley model. I can even envision Obama fighting with Congress against higher taxes if anti-tax increase sentiment keeps brewing. Out of no fault to his formidable political skills I doubt he'll be able to maintain personal popularity in the face of absolute economic disaster. Maybe just maybe in some Stockholm Syndrome where America is a depression captive he enjoys re-electability like FDR but I think two vs. one term is a mean reversion bet and we're due for one. Change reaps what change sows.....






     
    #10     Oct 28, 2008