Pairs Trading Strategy Model

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Neutral_Al, Sep 5, 2002.

  1. I analyze it from a risk/reward perspective, i.e., if I expect the spread to revert to the mean 67% of the time, then I'll implement a stop loss that is equal to the reward of the spread. So, size of loss equals size of win, but if you win 2 out of 3 times, then you're golden.

    MC
     
    #61     Sep 26, 2002

  2. Hi Mark,

    How do you find the spreads you use and how do you determine the percentage number?

    Al
     
    #62     Oct 2, 2002
  3. royce09

    royce09

    Al you do a pretty good job yourself of finding spreads (e.g. FO/ITT).

    How do you find the spreads? Last time you told me correlation...is there something more?

    Royce
     
    #63     Oct 2, 2002
  4. market topology used to be a good place to find pairs but they started charging for the site. a good way to find pairs is get a list of all the stocks in the s&p 500 that do over a million shares note the sector for each symbol. then overlay the stocks in the same sector on a chart to see how they track. go back a few years and check the range for the spread.
     
    #64     Oct 2, 2002
  5. are you using a website for charting?

    I've been using Yahoo, and also

    http://stockcharts.com/charts/performance/


    thanks :cool:
     
    #65     Oct 2, 2002
  6. Hi Royce,

    Currently I am testing several systems. All of them are based on correlation analysis. However, some of the constrains are different. For example, FO/ITT and FDC/GWW belong to the "flat" 40dma system. Something like DLX/ODP is more trendy but has better risk parameters on a longer term. The reason I ask people questions is because in order to come up with a great system I need as much help as I can get. Any idea is welcome...

    Al
     
    #66     Oct 2, 2002
  7. royce09

    royce09

    Thanks for sharing the link, this is value added.

    Royce
     
    #67     Oct 3, 2002
  8. Closed FNM/FRE today at R=1.137 with 3% gain. Could not wait any longer. It is still quite far from 40dma. Working on my timing...

    Al
     
    #68     Oct 3, 2002
  9. nitro

    nitro

    WTG!!

    I got in earlier than you I think - I don't have the stomach for that ride...

    Congrats,

    nitro
     
    #69     Oct 3, 2002
  10. Bob111

    Bob111

    how long you been in this position?
    i look @ pairtrading.com performance-they far away from my results....

    http://www.angelfire.com/de3/options/TRADES.HTM

    looks like they put at least 20000 on each side to get 500-1000 profit. man..........you can make it easy on nasdaq in intraday.
    imagine, where i would be, if unstead 2500-5000 on each side i put 20000)))))))))))heh....
    one big drop on news will kick you out for month, if not forever.
    i been trying to hold some positions overnight-it's nightmare.
     
    #70     Oct 3, 2002