Pair Trading Strategy Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by jonnysharp, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. Very interesting. A few pertinent points from Kaufman;

    1) He advocates a raw stochastic as the entry indicator, as there is less lag than RSI or MACD. The long form formula (don't want to mess with subscripts) is

    Stochastic = (Today's close - min last n days) / (max last n days - min last n days)

    He tests look back periods (the n days) up to 20 days, so fairly short term.

    2) Entry based on stochastic difference. He tests +/- 40 to +/- 60
    3) for adjusting position size he advocates using Average True Range as the measure of volatility. His logic is it factors in highs and lows of the day, as opposed to just the closing price. For someone like me who desperately wants to get away from the screen, I'm not sure how good that would be.

    What I like so far is he takes you on a journey of exploration, rather than saying this is how to do it. At the end you have clear ideas of what should be factored in, how to do so and test / measure the results. In other words he gives you the tools to design your own system to suit your needs. Perfect for me, because I can't stand that How to Make a Million Bucks in 5 Minutes a Day garbage.
     
    #2751     Sep 11, 2012
  2. deucy28

    deucy28

    Thank you caveman. I read it. The theme is to take ALL market direction influence out of the pair. Why ? Because the trader has already identified either by technical analysis or fundamental analysis that that either the Long is undervalued or the short is overvalued or (happily) both is the case. Since I don't do technical nor fundamental analysis, it does not apply to my trading.

    BUT, I agree with you, it is a fascinating article and gives the tools to allow one to zero out market direction influence that may unduly apply to one leg more than another because of their respective betas. There certainly will be occurrences that will become obvious that one leg can have a strongly supported analysis suggesting going long or short. That alone could constitute a trade. But a pair with great credentials to go different ways (one long and the other short) is perfect for applying the tools from this article. It is a good trick to put in the bag to be used when the opportunity presents.

    Good find ! Thanks !
     
    #2752     Sep 11, 2012
  3. deucy28

    deucy28

    As promised from you, good snippet derivative from Kaufman.

    You found the essence of the article.

    Nicely condensed report, justrading !

    Have you used the SEARCH engine of ET ? You might find others who know Kaufman.
     
    #2753     Sep 11, 2012
  4. deucy28

    deucy28

    I have just looked at my positions 90 minutes from session closing.

    short HON
    long BA

    has slipped and laying flat, not moving for hours with unbooked minor loss.


    short CI
    long AET

    has ripped against me today. It is 2/3 of the distance to me placing another layer on. I may keep a closer eye on it to add that layer should it reach that threshold of doing so.


    NOTE: It is unusual to have my positions positive early in a pair trade because I frequently open into momentum that is in the opposite direction I desire. Should the rubber band stretch way long against me from the opening of a trade, I typically put on another layer. If the first layer was good to establish, by its very nature the second layer is that much better.
     
    #2754     Sep 11, 2012
  5. deucy28

    deucy28

    Second layer put on 44 minutes before session close today.

    CI short

    AET long

    Doubling the fun !
     
    #2755     Sep 12, 2012
  6. are you actually trading this?/
     
    #2756     Sep 12, 2012
  7. curious.... can someone break this down for me.... whats the amount actually used for this trade?
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    #2757     Sep 12, 2012
  8. deucy28

    deucy28


    REFERENCE THREE POSTS UP:

    CI Short
    AET Long

    2nd Layer today

    Pictured is a screen shot from my trading platform and my trading log.

    <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=3624140>

    It is too late to screen shot my first layer from my trading platform; trades performed evaporate from it after midnight. But I can screen print my trading log should you wish. I suppose I could log on to my broker's web site and take a screen shot of documentation there. Lots of work editing though.
     
    #2758     Sep 12, 2012
  9. deucy28

    deucy28

    Be advised HOT HST is soaring. I closed my trade two weeks ago, doing nicely in it. But it moved good yesterday and today, and my trade would have accrued another 25% of gain. I first identified this chart on Aug 1 and heralded it as one of the best if not the best I have seen in 4 years.
     
    #2759     Sep 12, 2012
  10. deucy28

    deucy28

    #2760     Sep 13, 2012