Pair Trading Strategy Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by jonnysharp, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. ascheer7

    ascheer7

    Has anyone else installed PTF 3.01? If so, is it running slower or faster than PTF 2.99 for you? What operating system are you using?

    So far I have not gotten any help on this from PTF so I have to ask the people on the forum.
     
    #2511     May 25, 2011
  2. Dr Who

    Dr Who

    Anyone upgraded to the new cointegration version of PTF ?
    Is it worth the upgrade ?
     
    #2512     May 26, 2011
  3. I have been using the new version of PTF (3.01) for about two weeks.

    The interface is essentially unchanged from prior versions (the last I used before the 2.99 demo was 2.89, and it is basically the same).

    The inclusion of co-integration is nice, but I am still trying to relate the current co-integration value to the historical performance of a given pair. Not much luck so far. Since the co-integration value changes over time, the only way to really look at this analytically is to have the co-integration metric at the time each trade was signaled, and compare returns from high and low scoring pairs.

    So far paper trading with the new vrsion of PTF, I like it better this time around, and it is delivering on its promise.

    One thing I suggested to Jared was that in the home list of pairs, one can set up signals to be delivered only if the pair meets key criteria (e.g., greater than 2 SD from the mean, along with a co-integration of 0.95 or better). That way only "good" trades are suggested from a larger list of potentially profitable pairs.
     
    #2513     May 29, 2011
  4. Dr Who

    Dr Who

    Thanks for the feedback Kevin. I suspect it'll take a bit of time to compare the two versions, though co-integration does seem to be favoured by lots of people who know a lot more than me about the subject. I suspect I'll upgrade.
     
    #2514     May 30, 2011
  5. coreed

    coreed

    FX Pairs appear to ideally suited for Corr/Coint. Mean Reversion

    Volatility is a constant

    No Benchmark hindrance: e.g. Trending Upward Stock Market with low volatility produces flat returns.' State' of Equity Market has direct bearing on expected return for Equity pairs. This problem does not appear to exist in FX

    Great offered leverage: 20:1 and up

    Can start out small, e.g. IB Min. Trade Size = USD25K - Where as Equity Pairs Trading sees me frequently trading over my Max $ Trade size simply because I cannot short < 100 shares

    No dividends, earnings, up/downgrades, M&A - i.e. no 'inside' surprises

    Those are the arguments I can see for at least augmenting Equity Trading with FX.

    Curious to hear if anyone else is trading FX with PTF.
     
    #2515     Jun 3, 2011
  6. luxor

    luxor

    I must say I'm very impressed so far with the latest PTF with cointegration. So far, I have not had one losing trade in two weeks. I put on about 2 to 3 pairs a day.

    Before you really had to do further analysis of the pairs that were signalled. It seems now as long as the cointegration is above 90 and the pairs come from the same industry or sector, the trade will work.
     
    #2516     Jun 3, 2011
  7. newguy99

    newguy99

    can anyone using ptf help me, when i try to load ptd and press create it has sql problem and cant create database, thank you
     
    #2517     Jun 3, 2011

  8. I don't know. I am in three trades with more than 0.95 co-integration and classic heartbeat chart..and they are all going in the wrong direction

    -HAL / +OII
    -KFY / +RHI
    -SWM / +WPP
     
    #2518     Jun 3, 2011
  9. DBS67

    DBS67

    @amitkumar,

    What time range are you using for those 3 pairs?

    I cannot say how the single PTF number is calculated. But a cointegration analysis usually produces more output.

    I looked at your examples since 2001, 2007 and 2009 using the Engle-Granger method. Only KFY/RHI passes on the residuals test since 2001 at 99% confidence. That is to say, the residuals are stationary and therefore the series is cointegrated.

    KFY/RHI also passes at 95% since 2007; and displays a valid mean reversion alpha number (just) over that range.

    I attach a pic of the residuals for the pair since 2007. The other details to go along with that:

    r2=79%
    alpha=-.96
    beta=1.17
    half life=2.64

    Hope this helps.
     
    #2519     Jun 4, 2011
  10. coreed

    coreed

    Newguy go to:http://www.pairtradefinder.com/ and go into forums under 'Q&A + Support' and see if there are similar posts.

    Failing that mail Jarred at admin@pairtradefinder.com

    He might be a couple of days getting back to you, but he will answer.

    Setting up SQL can be tricky. You might want as a last resort to refer to local support for setting up the database. i.e. take your laptop/PC to an IT Tech locally to install SQL. Forums/Mails are great, but it is a lot easier sometimes to have a guy in front of the computer

    Hope this helps
     
    #2520     Jun 4, 2011