Pair daytrading ETFs - my favorite way to trade

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by KCalhoun, May 14, 2022.

  1. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    I've been doing a lot of pair/hedge daytrading lately, and my biggest winning days all use it.

    I simply trade long-bias SOXL when the market goes up, trail a super tight .1 stop when it looks like it's going to go back down, then long UVXY SQQQ when the market goes down.

    Its like ping pong, just flipping from one to the other. It's much easier than constantly trading different daily gappers, bc you get to know the patterns of a few ETFs over time, and how to trade them.

    Other occasional pairs = LABD/LABU, GDX/DUST

    anyone else try this? soxl13may.jpg uvxy13may.jpg
     
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  2. R1234

    R1234

    I do that as well with other 3x etfs. Do you sometimes overlap a long and inverse when the direction is unclear? For example long TNA and long SPXU simultaneously.
     
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  3. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    Yes - great observation. I do that premkt too, eg SOXL and UVXY simultaneously, then scale into whichever goes up.
     
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  4. I agree, there's something to be said for trading market etf's

    Not sure this is what I would call pair trading, as you are not in both at the same time .
     
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  5. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    True, I used to call it arbitrage or hedging, but those aren't exactly right either.
     
  6. Ken, if I am following correctly, what does trading the pairs get you above just going long/short one of the two?

    For example, TQQQ and SQQQ are a pair. If I am understanding correctly, if you want to go long, you get in TQQQ, then if you want to go short you sell that and get in SQQQ (as a long, which because SQQQ is an inverse is effectively a short on the market). Why not just stick with TQQQ and either long and short it, to get to (I think) very much the same place as going the pairs route? Is there a reason pairs are better?

    Thanks!
     
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  7. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    Hi - great question.. the reason is because i have open/pending orders in place ahead of time. i trade sequences of 2-3 trades in either direction with OTO orders... so for example a sequence in SQQQ would be long 52.7 53.1 53.4, and for TQQQ 32.2 32.4 32.7. trading opposites gives me time to set up orders (I do as many as 110 rts daily)
     
  8. ajensen

    ajensen

    If you are able to time the stock market intraday why not just go long or short S&P 500 futures?
     
  9. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    It's on my to-do list, I'm a stock/etf trader.... I want to start futs trading /es