jem, listen to your friend Hello: If you're not happy with that conclusion, jem, I can offer you another one.
I am not sure what you think a a birther is, but I do not think I am one. I will judge evidence. I am waiting for originals or a statement that the originals are gone. Any other position is illogical.
jem will believe some guy who was killed 2000 years ago rose from the dead walked around a few days and then flew up into the sky. he further believes this dead guy will someday fly down from the sky yet he refuses to believe obama was born in hawaii even though there was a birth announcement published in the newspaper at the time. he is one sharp dude.
you are one scared socialist. Those publications have been alleged to have been photoshopped frauds. I have never seen evidence to the contrary. As far as knowledge of the exact date of birth. I would say that we do not have reliable documentation of either. As far as location of birth... we have the bible vs... a birth certificate from Kenya - perhaps a fraud, and a "birth certificate" from the internet which we know is a fraud. If I am going to take something on faith... it won't be the word of a democrat. I have never heard obama say he was born in America - have you?
This isn't really the most legit "birther" issue to me. I think the most legitimate issue is whether or not he ever had Indonesian or Kenyan citizenship. If he did, he would have automatically lost his American citizenship, which was the law at that time. If he lost his American citizenship, when did he get it back? I think that's the most legitimate question. Also, we know he was enrolled in school as Barry Soetoro. Not Barak Obama. So why wouldn't his birth certificate say Barry Soetoro? If Barry Soetoro wasn't his birth name, why did he start using it, and why was he enrolled in school under that name? Why do all his relatives SAY he was born in Kenya, and that they were present? They are delusional or they are lying. If they are lying, WHY are they lying. The fact is, our president has a very opaque past. Does that somehow mean that he must have been born outside of the United States? No, of course not. It does mean that people have questons, which are very natural given how opaque his past is. How do any of these questions have anything to do with "racism" or "hate"?
Too funny so the guy who lives in an area which is 95% white people thinks he is somehow an expert on race relations. You have falsely accused me of being a racist many times not knowing that i grew up in an area of toronto which was predominantly asian and brown people, and that most of my friends were people of color. I bet you have never even had a colored friend in your life and you have the audacity to think that you are some how the authority figure on what is and isnt racist. I thought i had seen it all on elite trader, but hearing that gabfly1 lives in central canada which is 95% white people while he pretends be the authority on racism is one of the most insane things i have seen. I bet you that Gabfly1 has not even actually witnessed real racism in his life, because when 95% of the population is white there really isnt anyone to act racist towards. That is why he comes on here desperately trying to paint the picture that everyone who disagrees with Obama is racist.
Stupider and stupider. You're like the Energizer Bunny of stupid. You just keep going and going and...
But who managed to get it right anyway. Since assassinating a president is a treasonous act, then, by definition, wishing for it is a treasonous sentiment. I didn't say it was actionable. I was only referring to the nature of Index Piker's sentiment itself. But as your constant reference to this matter clearly indicates, you're too stupid to make that distinction, aren't you? And you continue to implicitly provide Index Piker with cover by focusing on my calling him out rather than on his heinous comments about wishing the president dead by assassination. I can only imagine your family's pride at your false pedantry and your implicit condoning of Index Piker by attacking people who called him out on his repugnant commentary. And that's all you got, isn't it? A big bag of nothing. On the plus side, it goes well with your big bag of stupid.