Over 100 Million People in U.S. Now Receiving Some Form Of Federal Welfare

futurecurrents · Aug 9, 2012

Quote from Tsing Tao:

This whole aspect of calling people who receive government support as "moochers" is a bunch of horseshit. You guys really should get out more. Is a single mother supporting two kids by working two jobs and living in rent controlled housing - but still unable to pay all her bills without food stamps a "moocher"? Shame on you if you believe so.

There are numerous examples of people who are simply poor - yet try hard to make ends meet every single day. Some people go hungry at the end of the month while they wait for their assistance check to hit their EBT card. They would GLADLY take a better income job if it would save them that, or having to look at their hungry children and think of this. If you call these people moochers, then you deserve the karma you get on the backside for your lack of compassion.

Now, there ARE people out there playing Xbox because they are entitled to 99 weeks of unemployment, and they're "mooching" of their parents, their friends, whomever just to get a government check. I don't know what the percentage is. But don't be an ass (not calling anyone out in particular) to call them all moochers.
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Holy crap.......good post.

PHOENIX TRADING · Aug 9, 2012

Quote from Tsing Tao:

This whole aspect of calling people who receive government support as "moochers" is a bunch of horseshit. You guys really should get out more. Is a single mother supporting two kids by working two jobs and living in rent controlled housing - but still unable to pay all her bills without food stamps a "moocher"? Shame on you if you believe so.

There are numerous examples of people who are simply poor - yet try hard to make ends meet every single day. Some people go hungry at the end of the month while they wait for their assistance check to hit their EBT card. They would GLADLY take a better income job if it would save them that, or having to look at their hungry children and think of this. If you call these people moochers, then you deserve the karma you get on the backside for your lack of compassion.

Now, there ARE people out there playing Xbox because they are entitled to 99 weeks of unemployment, and they're "mooching" of their parents, their friends, whomever just to get a government check. I don't know what the percentage is. But don't be an ass (not calling anyone out in particular) to call them all moochers.
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Make all the excuses and silly "what-if" scenario's that you want to but if you are not paying your full freight then by definition someone is carrying you (at least for the time being ).
No need getting your panties in a wad about recognizing the obvious.

Eight · Aug 9, 2012

Quote from Brass:

Assuming what you say is true, then how would you go about explaining the 27 of the 32 states that receive more than they contribute and just happen to be red states? And that's red as in Republican, not the other red.
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I can explain: Republicans 1) do math 2) are winners

denner · Aug 9, 2012

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I said "and moochers"...
I did not say they were all moochers.
There are some people who righteously deserve help.
Temporarily maybe more.

But the dems have turned that 10 percent into 40 to 50 percent.

I will not sit here and be P.C. about it.

If I were trying to take down the status quo, I would be a democrat too.
I have stated many times dems have cobbled together a coalitions of hate america radicals, minorities and people who suck off govt.

Are they all bad people no.
Are they all hard working productive americans.... clearly not.
Some would prefer you work hard so they can stay home an play xbox.

Finely: the dems are not the compasionate ones. You are being fooled by the thieves at the top.

Compassionate people set up a system where people have opportunity and govt provides a small safety net.

The larger the safety net the more you destroy people who worked for the opportunity - the more you destroy your "compassionate" society.

The leftists at the top manipulate people by using arguments about compassion but they are really out for power.

You can teach a guy to fish so he can compete with his neighbors. If works harder or smarter he can buy a house.

Or you can come in... give them all outboards and let them destroy their fishery in a year or two on a equal basis.

Giving stuff away is not compassionate if it makes people dependent... its nefarious.. and it is systematic.

Most blacks in cities were a hell of a lot better off in America before the great society welfare give aways... even in spite of the discrimination they were experiencing.

At least that is my opinion.

Cities like D.C., New York and others had areas of town where black entrepreneurship thrived.

Black kids had dads and they did not have to worry about every young black male being in jail, being shot, or being dealer.

The men had to be productive and stick around to take care of their kids. The women could not just keep getting pregnant and let the men go and run around.

What is called liberal compassion has created a sick nation.
And its time we start pointing out it not compassion but planned systematic destruction of people for votes.
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Completely spot on!

Tsing Tao · Aug 10, 2012

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Make all the excuses and silly "what-if" scenario's that you want to but if you are not paying your full freight then by definition someone is carrying you (at least for the time being ).
No need getting your panties in a wad about recognizing the obvious.
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I'm not debating that someone is carrying those in need. I'm arguing against slandering them with negative intonation just because they are down on their luck.

So I got my panties in a wad over that, and you got your panties in a wad over what I said.

Or perhaps you believe there should be no safety net whatsoever for anyone at all, period. Do you?

Tsing Tao · Aug 10, 2012

Quote from jem:

I said "and moochers"...
I did not say they were all moochers.
There are some people who righteously deserve help.
Temporarily maybe more.

But the dems have turned that 10 percent into 40 to 50 percent.

I will not sit here and be P.C. about it.

If I were trying to take down the status quo, I would be a democrat too.
I have stated many times dems have cobbled together a coalitions of hate america radicals, minorities and people who suck off govt.

Are they all bad people no.
Are they all hard working productive americans.... clearly not.
Some would prefer you work hard so they can stay home an play xbox.

Finely: the dems are not the compasionate ones. You are being fooled by the thieves at the top.

Compassionate people set up a system where people have opportunity and govt provides a small safety net.

The larger the safety net the more you destroy people who worked for the opportunity - the more you destroy your "compassionate" society.

The leftists at the top manipulate people by using arguments about compassion but they are really out for power.

You can teach a guy to fish so he can compete with his neighbors. If works harder or smarter he can buy a house.

Or you can come in... give them all outboards and let them destroy their fishery in a year or two on a equal basis.

Giving stuff away is not compassionate if it makes people dependent... its nefarious.. and it is systematic.

Most blacks in cities were a hell of a lot better off in America before the great society welfare give aways... even in spite of the discrimination they were experiencing.

At least that is my opinion.

Cities like D.C., New York and others had areas of town where black entrepreneurship thrived.

Black kids had dads and they did not have to worry about every young black male being in jail, being shot, or being dealer.

The men had to be productive and stick around to take care of their kids. The women could not just keep getting pregnant and let the men go and run around.

What is called liberal compassion has created a sick nation.
And its time we start pointing out it not compassion but planned systematic destruction of people for votes.
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No disagreements anywhere here. All I'm saying is don't discount that there are some people who truly are in need.

PHOENIX TRADING · Aug 10, 2012

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Or perhaps you believe there should be no safety net whatsoever for anyone at all, period. Do you?
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No safety net period.
The govt is not your surrogate parent , brother or guardian/ warden.

Brass · Aug 10, 2012

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...All I'm saying is don't discount that there are some people who truly are in need.
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This statement is one that distinguishes you from the the crazy gargoyles on the Far Right.

PHOENIX TRADING · Aug 10, 2012

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All I'm saying is don't discount that there are some people who truly are in need.
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Fine but expecting big brother govt to step in and "solve " every problem inevitably leads us to the nonsense and abuse we see today.

PHOENIX TRADING · Aug 10, 2012

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This statement is one that distinguishes you from the the crazy gargoyles on the Far Right.
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I'm just curious
Please tell me of a problem the US govt is not trying to cure?