What debate. You have served up some Democrat talking point assertions and I have knocked them out of the park. See? I knew you were a liberal - you do things by feelings. Yes I agree, you don't write very well. And you don't read very well either. Who wins a war and does not occupy? Of course it is unstable. Germany and Japan were unstable after WW2 - during the occupation. Duh! More Democrat talking points - complete nonsense. Yeah so the CIA did some bad things - that is not justification to condemn the vastly larger amount of good things the US does. There are two knids of countries in the world - those who want to get along with America and those who hold animosity toward her. When that animosity is displayed as overt actions against American interests or those of her allies, it is prudent foreign policy to pay attention to the matter. You are a liberal - a whiney, ignorant liberal as SteveD pointed out. Typical liberal - lose the argument, so then go on a Bush bashing rant to deflect the discussion...
I guess this conversation now turned to you trying to prove that I am a liberal or whatever. Im a moderate-conservative in my view, but you can call me a liberal if you want. That doesn't bother me at all. You should probably also define the term liberal. If conservative solely means to maintain the status quo, and liberal means to make several changes/improvements in the system, then I would certainly be a liberal. Like I said, my conservative views are basically derived from me believing that the federal government should remain small. Thats what conservatism is all about... a limited federal gov't, The way you describe it, a conservative cannot be against the war. Maybe I am one of those hicks, driving a American pick up truck, who thinks it is unpatriotic to not support the war. Am I not supporting the troops by asking for them to come home and live amongst their family and friends instead of fighting an enemy that had nothing to do with 9/11? You seem to believe that liberal has a negative connotation. I don't think it does, it is just a different ideology. Furthermore, we do practice liberalism. BTW, im in my senior year at college. My major is political science and I minor in International relations.
BTW Bush is a horrible president, no denying that. He best served the Christian right and several corporate titans.
Are you retarded? Any war in which one country attempts to invade another one, and the defensive country wins, they generally don't invade the other country back. When we gained independence from Great Britain, we surely did not occupy and raid London.
I call 'em as I see 'em. You come here making a bunch of liberal assertions, then you are a contemporary liberal. You illustrate your naivete when you think it is just a "different ideology". For a senior with a major in political science and minor in international relations you are frightenly misinformed, and even scarier, you "feel" you are informed...
He has done some good things and some bad things - but I know we would never agree on which is which.
A typical liberal response. I don't even have Fox news. I read on the internet. I read everything from the NY Times and the Huffington Post to the NY Sun and National review. I read current events and I search out old documents. I read news and I read research papers. I see all sides. And I see through ashamed liberals in a minute...
Monty, I don't mean to offend you but you seem like an interesting kid who, unfortunately, is picking a few bad habits by some characters on this board. My advice is that you stick to your studies for a few more years, and when you have more experience on how to research, think through and express properly a political argument, come back, we'll still be here.