Our Energy Mess

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Yannis, Apr 5, 2011.

  1. M85 prices out above $3/gal.

    Current price of methanol is $1.28/gal. It takes about 1.8 gals of M85 to equal a gallon of gasoline due to the lower energy content of methanol.

    Add $0.7 in taxes, 0.05 transport and 0.1 profit and you get $3.20/gal.

    Seneca
     
    #21     May 10, 2011
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    That should be suppressing their demand for imported methanol. Unless they are also blocking its export, reducing worldwide supply... are they?
     
    #22     May 10, 2011
  3. Hate to break it to you but that is methane. not methanol.

    Good thinking though.
     
    #23     May 10, 2011
  4. Makes too much sense, and we can't have that ruining a good campaign issue.
    However, when I try, and it's really difficult, to take off my all politicans are just a bunch of self serving bastards hat, I ask myself what would happen if we really came up with an energy source, whatever it was, that truely put a serious dent in oil consumption? What happens in that ME region if we, and the rest of the world could say, drink your oil and eat your sand, we don't need you anymore? My thought is the place becomes more violent than ever. Then what? Could it be, however crazy and mis-guided that it seems, that we stay on the oil tit in an effort to keep a lid on that ME powder keg? If not, and we truly are being lead by a bunch of self serving jerks who simply want a perpetual campaign issue, we should behead all 535 members of congress/senate.
     
    #24     May 10, 2011
  5. There are two recent game changers:

    #1: Patent issued to US Navy for recovery of CO2 from seawater. This patent provides the feedstock for synthetically making methanol, gasoline, plastics and jet fuel from a virtually limitless source of CO2.

    #2: Andrea Rossi's ECAT Energy Catalyzer http://www.defkalion-energy.com/ A type of Low Energy Nuclear Reactor: Patent

    Between the two technologies fuels, plastics and electricity will be generated on a carbon neutral basis and delivered using existing infrastructure and technologies.
     
    #25     May 10, 2011
  6. byteme

    byteme

    I'll wager this turns out to be an elaborate hoax/scam. We'll know in a few months.
     
    #26     May 11, 2011