Our corrupt moronic "leader"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bungrider, Jun 26, 2002.

  1. i'm not even a clinton fan...and i'm not defending him. i'm just saying you gotta give him some credit for becoming someone. i agree he may not have done it the most ethical ways.
     
    #71     Jul 2, 2002
  2. gimme a break...I am not an Ivy League graduate and not defending these institutions, but I will give credit where credit is due and Yale is one hell of a good school...And, yeah great the guy earned a high B and a B+, who the hell knows what courses he took at Yale...Maybe he was taking Organic Chem at the community college and then decided to take Intro to Sociology at Yale...
     
    #72     Jul 2, 2002
  3. trader99

    trader99

    I think Clinton was a genuinely "smart" guy. Here, I meant to say smart as in academic, but not necessarily in ANY other dimensions. Probably not so smart with his many affairs. hehe.

    Jimmy Carter has a Phd in nuclear engineering but an unpopular prez. Wilson was a professor at Princeton. Kennedy wen tto Harvard but didn't do that hot.

    Basically, in politics, you'll get elected by 1) popularity 2) manipulation of votes(W. Bush) 3) luck

    has nothing with skills, intelligence, or anything else. kinda like high school elections huh? haha
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    GORE'S DUBIOUS SCHOOL RECORD

    Author: By JENNIFER C. BRACERAS
    Date: 09/07/2000 Page: A15 Section: Op-Ed
    JENNIFER C. BRACERAS
    Jennifer C. Braceras is an attorney and research fellow at Harvard Law School. Her column appears regularly in the Globe.
    When will the liberal media stop treating left-wing ideology as a proxy for intelligence? For months the press has questioned the intellect of Republican candidate George W. Bush, while describing Al Gore as "serious," "intellectual" - even "wonkish."

    The basis for the media's unfair attacks on Bush's intelligence is his 30-year-old Yale College transcript (purloined last fall and published by The New Yorker). Yet The Washington Post's subsequent revelation of Gore's unimpressive academic record has done little to alter the media's false portrayal of Gore as "the smartest kid in the class." It is a record that is worth reviewing, if only to debunk the myth of Gore as a serious student.

    Gore's undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C's, including a C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus in another. "In his sophomore year at Harvard," the Post reported, "Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale." Moreover, Gore's graduate school record - consistently glossed over by the press - is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of "Inventing Al Gore," he received F's in five of the eight classes he took over the course of three semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a degree from the divinity school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law School, where he enrolled for a brief time and received his fair share of C's. (Bush went on to earn an MBA from Harvard).

    But whereas the liberal press has described Bush's college days as a time of misspent youth, media accounts of Gore's undergraduate years are grossly fawning. (The New York Times: "As Mr. Bush was frolicking around Yale, a young man named Al Gore was studying at Harvard"; "Harvard nurtured the part of [Gore] that is in love with the world of ideas." The New Republic: "At Harvard, Gore set himself formidable intellectual challenges.")

    And then there is the laughable October issue of Psychology Today. As part of a cover story entitled, "Gore and Bush on the Couch," the magazine reports the results of a spurious "analysis" of 10 of the candidates speeches and/or interviews. The authors claim that the study "verifies" the popular stereotype that "Bush is not as deep a thinker as Gore."

    Two pages later, readers will be shocked - shocked! - to learn that the magazine's (no doubt scientific) study of the candidates' facial gestures reveals that Gore is the "more serious, constrained, controlled, weighty, ponderous, [and] dominant of the two candidates." More ponderous, perhaps . . . but, please, spare me the pop psychology.

    Biased reporters, however, are not the only ones to blame. Indeed, the vice president himself has cultivated this genius persona (one of many). Thus, he did not correct PBS News anchor Gwen Ifill when she referred to him as a graduate of Vanderbilt Law School. Even more significant was the line in Gore's convention acceptance speech in which he stated, "I know my own imperfections. I know that sometimes people say I'm too serious, that I talk too much substance and policy." Poor Al, he's just too smart for the job.

    Of course, the stereotyping of conservative candidates as dumb and liberal candidates as "brilliant" is nothing new. During the 1950s, the media lionized Democrat Adlai Stevenson as an intellectual, while ridiculing Republican Dwight Eisenhower as an ineffectual simpleton. Back then, the members of the press knew full well that Stevenson attended Harvard Law School and, yet, had not received a degree. But the media gave Stevenson a pass. (Sound familiar?) Had resourceful journalists investigated, they might have learned (as we now know from Stevenson's biographer John Bartlow Martin) that Harvard Law School Dean Erwin Griswold had hidden Stevenson's transcript in a locked cabinet in his office. What was he hiding? Stevenson, the so-called "thinking man's candidate," had, in fact, flunked out of Harvard Law.

    In the end, neither intellect nor academic performance is an especially important criterion by which to judge our presidents. Ronald Reagan and Harry Truman were no scholars, but they rank among the best presidents in our country's history. And what about many liberals' favorite president - Franklin Roosevelt? Social, popular, and famously unserious as an undergraduate at Harvard, FDR had an undistinguished academic record. Yet, later in life, Roosevelt's charisma and his ability to persuade, compromise, and lead helped him to become a "reformer with results."

    This election is not an I.Q. test; it is about which candidate has better judgment. And that is why, despite the media's love affair with the celluloid image of Al Gore the policy-wonk, it is the affable, authentic, and sensible Bush who would make the better leader.
     
    #73     Jul 2, 2002
  4. peter77

    peter77

    You know you're a dumb leader when your supporters say intelligence is not important.
     
    #74     Jul 2, 2002
  5. janko

    janko

    "Over 75 percent of white Americans own their home, and less than 50 percent of Hispanos and African Americans don't own their home. And that's a gap, that's a homeownership gap. And we've got to do something about it."—Cleveland, Ohio, July 1, 2002
     
    #75     Jul 2, 2002
  6. Wow, gotta admit that Bung lost me with that radical left turn on how communism worked in Cuba. Communism is nothing less than a complete dismal failure as an economic system. The political system in Cuba is a dictatorship. From Castro's perspective no doubt that "communism" has worked.

    I'll make a wild assumption that Bung's statement is simply a reaction to counter balance the radical statements of those who wish to resurrect Joe McCarthy and the evil accusations of unamerican activities.

    The articles posted by Babak are both informative and amusing.
     
    #76     Jul 2, 2002
  7. I was comparing Cuba vs. N Korea, China, and the USSR.
     
    #77     Jul 3, 2002
  8. Cuba had success in socialized health and education. Otherwise, the Communist era in Cuba is/was a glaring failure. The capitalist, actually oligarchic, era as well was one of enormous wealth inequities and political corruption.

    My grandfather was born in Cuba, son of the Spanish colonial Governor. He died there as well after a long sojourn in the US.

    Castro's intransigence with the West cost the Cubans dearly, by isolating them from the West. At the end of his life when my mother visited him, he complained that for over 20 years his phonograph did not work because he could not replace the needle. The simplest of goods found in any capitalist market were always lacking over there and left the people trapped in a backward era.
     
    #78     Jul 3, 2002