Our 400,000 Trade Test Proves Using Stops Is Not Very Bright

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by marketsurfer, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. botpro

    botpro

    That whole discussion about the bet is off-topic in this thread.
    It should be done in an own thread.
    But guess who likes to kill the threads by overloading it with off-topic stuff? destriero and his followers...
    Regarding stops: I've only replied to existing questions, and it is the very topic of this very thread...
     
    #141     Mar 12, 2016
  2. I had the same reaction as you, till one day somebody told to "nobody": the E from ET is not from Elite but from Entertainment.
    Since I see ET as entertainment it is much easier for me to stay and not run away. I see ET as a big joke and use it to kill time while I am waiting for the next signal to get in or out of a trade. Because that is the biggest problem for me in trading: most of the day waiting and doing nothing.


    And sometimes I get distracted from all this waiting and miss the signal!!!! :mad:
     
    #142     Mar 13, 2016
  3. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    You can't even see you have just admitted you know nothing about trading, which is fine, but the real problem is, you think you do.

    It is very obvious who the real fools are here!

    J_S
     
    #143     Mar 13, 2016
  4. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    You assume, which is very obvious.

    Show us the proof in relation to brokers.

    As for using backtesting as proof of trading results, well, only a monkey would do that, and we already know the surf gang loves bananas:D

    You guys are typical text book traders, who knows everything bout nothing. Go read a novel, it might teach you something about life, for you are wasting your time trading, which is very obvious to those of us in the know.

    J_S
     
    #144     Mar 13, 2016
  5. Sergio77

    Sergio77

    If you have to hit the car break hard your foot may hurt but you better do it. You are measuring the performance of the foot.
     
    #145     Mar 13, 2016
  6. d08

    d08

    This has been my experience as well. Different instruments and many different stop methods, none have performed well enough to justify themselves - to ensure stops actually exit, you're sending market orders which are rarely a good idea. Sure, I can get slight incremental improvement either on profits or drawdown but for an idea to be truly useful, the difference has to be significant (and it's not).
     
    #146     Mar 13, 2016
  7. d08

    d08

    Backtesting is bad now? As opposed to what, looking at the stars?
    Backtesting is as close to a scientific method we can get in trading and for you to dismiss it in absolute terms tells us you share more with the flat earth society.

    Whenever someone says "for us in the know", it tells me they actually have very limited knowledge.
     
    #147     Mar 13, 2016
  8. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    If you have to backtest, then it is obvious you are looking for something you do not already know, which means you have no experience, which means you are going on a hunch.

    You can not apply the same analysis to trading as you can to other areas of human behavior, and if you do not know why, then it is obvious you should not be trading.

    As I said, you are all textbook traders, and really know nothing about how to take money from others.

    There are only 2 other posters on this site that show they are in the know, and even 1 of them is still a good bit off, even though trading for years.

    Making money is easy when you know how. If you want to learn a bit about it, go to Helsinki and take a certain bus route, but be very careful, as if you get off at the wrong stop, you will be lost forever, and end up like the majority, chasing your tail round in circles.

    You lot make me laugh, as it is as clear as day that ye have no clue what ye are talking about, and if ye knew how stupid ye look, ye would stop and cry with the laughter:rolleyes:

    J_S
     
    #148     Mar 13, 2016
  9. You are a child with merely words, trying to make yourself feel good.

    Post a pnl screenshot big guy ...and I may add D08 and myself have done so countless times in dedicated threads...so show us how superior you are mr in the know
     
    #149     Mar 13, 2016
  10. NoBias

    NoBias

    Don't think Baron is worried much about the term Ass

    Baron's position
     
    #150     Mar 13, 2016
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