Actually, its interesting to google the folks and organizations involved in the "anti-naked short selling" movement.
While flytiger and friends are "waiting for the trades to settle", the rest of the street is making a ton of money by shorting that dogshit company.
Yeah, you're right. Why settle trades at all? I mean, what purpose is this supply and demand bullshit.? Meaningless paperwork. Do away with it. You moron. It's your very existance, if you purport to be any kind of trader, to have a fair/efficient market. And last time I checked, they didn't repeal right and wrong. http://www.nasd.com/web/groups/enforcement/documents/monthly_disciplinary_actions/nasdw_015733.pdf Go to D3. GS gets fined a measly 15000 for failing to determine, ie naked shorting. Up until now, neandrathals like you could make all the money in the world illegally, although I doubt if you are bright enouigh to participate, and the downside was a pitance of a fine representing a fraction of the profits. The reason why flytiger doesn't participate is because I was brought up by loving parents who would put a boot up my ass when I did something wrong. I don't suppose the wolves who weined you were as strict. It looks like no one cares. But they're on to morons like you. It took us a while. But the Feds won't fuck around. The SEC is civil. The DOJ is criminal. That's where we are. Criminal. Now why don't you go eat some raw meat or do whatever you slope foreheaded assholes do. Oh yeah, Happy New Year. LOL
In 2006, Don't Blame the Shorts By James J. Cramer RealMoney.com Columnist 12/30/2005 9:50 AM EST Click here for more stories by James J. Cramer Perhaps the most over-observed, over-chronicled and falsely over-weighted topic on Wall Street these days is naked shorting. First of all, you should almost never care about this process if you are a business person. If you are running a company and you are targeted by short-sellers, it's usually because you deserve it. I don't mean to be literal, but most of the short-sellers I know are smarter than the long buyers, and they are in a tough profession because the rules are so against them that it is barely worth trying to make money that way. So, they go after their targets carefully, because stocks can go up to infinity if you short them, but they stop, mercifully, at zero if you buy them. Second, the concept of not finding shares before you short them, not locating them, is something that happens very rarely, and when it does, you tend to get bought in and lose everything that you might have made. Yet, there is this whole cottage industry of people who know nothing about the mechanics of Wall Street, meaning people who have never spent time in margin, in reconciliation, in the cage, in stock loan, and don't know how things work. They keep writing and talking as if having no such thing as naked shorting would make the world quite different and more positive. What a bunch of hooey! To refresh, when you short, you need a locate; that is, you need to find the shares that you are going to borrow to sell. If you don't get a locate, or even if you get a locate and then the stock becomes overshorted, meaning too many shares are short vs. the float, you can be subject to being bought in. I used to short stocks all the time the right way. I first would get a locate from one of many of the places I had accounts, and then I would sell the stock short. But so often, others would join the short and I would be told that the stock could no longer be borrowed even though I had gotten the locate ahead. Then, the games begin. You have to beg not to be bought in. You have to plead. And in the end, it doesn't matter. Someone has bought the stock and takes the shares out of the vault so he needs them physically. (That's usually a sign that management has "figured the game out" and told everyone to get the stock out of "Street name" so it can't be borrowed so a squeeze can occur.) I have been "bought in" numerous times. You don't even know you are being bought in when you are, and you are not subject to time and sales requirements, meaning that you can be bought in at any price the desk that needs the stock sees fit. I got bought in on National Community Bank of Rutherford 8 points higher than the stock was trading. That's allowed. That's part of the long-side rigging that makes all of this squawking about naked shorting such a joke. But that's probably because the squawkers have no idea how the process works. Anyway, suffice it to say that the shorts, in the end, have very little power to manipulate down, to control the situation or even to influence the situation. But there are always managements eager to deflect the core weakness of their own businesses by suggesting that naked shorting is behind their demise. What a joke. The reality is that there are about four or five good short-selling firms, and they could be wiped out if any of the companies they are shorting turn out to be real and good and capable of sustained growth. I don't want to waste a lot of your or my time in 2006 talking about the powerful short-sellers. They are a myth. I do want to wage a campaign against the shorts' foes though, because without the shorts, how would we discover the frauds like Enron and WorldCom? You believe the sell-side research people will uncover them? The government? The ratings agencies? The rank-and-file media? Give me a break. And get off the backs of the shorts. They aren't worth your attention.
what the fuck is psycho cramer saying now??? he mixes in legit shorts with illegal naked shorts. does he care that they cant settle the trades????? is this just some kind of hit piece??? cramer..u piece of shit.. we just want them to settle the trades... and enforce the laws already on the books. when did this become so out of vogue??? as stated previously when we make a little mistake our firms go beserk... buy back the stock.. take away profits.. and a fine. these guys are brazenly defying the rules... they are not market makers... therefore their actions warrant severe regulatory attention. cramers relationship with cnbc/nbc is highly suspicious when one considers the fact that both stations spiked the story citing middle eastern connections and organized crime. "i am not making this stuff up people"
Rocker Partners is, or used to be, a major shareholder in TSCM. Rocker also wrote a column or two for RM detailing why he was shorting a certain stock. This was a while ago tho.
Byrne is incompetent. OSTK is a shit company. Flytiger has been getting his ass handed to him. Enough said.
ok.. i think longdork is another one that doesn't understand the dynamics of illegal naked shorting. LMAO
basically you have JP Morgan thumbing their noses at the SEC... they should be buying in the stock... but they ignore this serious regulation. this is a fixed game... it involves corruption at the highest levels. cnbc/nbc spike the story..... the media sweeps it all under the table. cramer puts out a hit piece that confuses joe six pack investor, by mixing legal and illegal shorting together. i mean come on, watch the guys show..he is truly crazy. then ppl like longdork come on here and expound on the merits of "making tons of money" illegally and laughs at flytiger. i am not making this stuff up people.
Buttboy88 is getting smoked trading OSTK long and comes here to cry about it. I heard Overstock is having a sale on Kleenex tissues. You should buy some to wipe up your tears.