I am not attempting anything to be honest. I have been trading based on my own way to use OF for 9 years and doing well. Some people disagree and come with points and reason why it is is waste of time to look at the order flow and this is fine. I used to be an institutional Broker too and crosses (off the book) do happen indeed and you can not see them etc. Still fine. Regardless, I don’t scalp and I tend to swing and position trade watching the order flow so DOM manipulations do not affect what I do. Everyone is different and everyone had their way to do things and what they believe and don’t believe in for all things in life. So if other traders do use the order flow or want to understand more about it and different aspects of it (original point of the thread) let’s do it but coming with a counter example of why it does not work and some other guys do something else is not helping us achieve much in that direction.. !