Optionsellers.com goes bust and the apology video is painful to watch

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Sweet Bobby, Nov 17, 2018.

  1. PJB1994

    PJB1994

    We spoke to an attorney that said we should pay the amount due to FC Stone because not paying it could result in large fees and interest charges. The lawyer we spoke to is: https://www.johnschapman.com/investment-fraud/optionsellers-investment-loss-recovery/
     
    #61     Nov 18, 2018
  2. you invested with a guy who settled a complaint with an individual as well as with an exchange?

     
    #62     Nov 18, 2018
  3. Some things you said seem contradictory. On one hand you cite the lawyer you seemingly contacted but then you seem to be unaware that that lawyer already is looking to file for class action and that he is looking for other like investors in this bankrupt fund. That is, however, clearly explained in the link you yourself provided. Which one is true as both can't be true at the same time?

     
    #63     Nov 18, 2018
  4. PJB1994

    PJB1994

    You are spreading as fact false information and when exposed you are making further conclusory statements still not knowing the facts. I suggest you do some due diligence before making these harmful utterances.

    When ridiculing clients who have suffered to such an extent, you should be aware that they are not "stupid" and include investment bankers, traders, business owners, surgeons, lawyers, engineers, etc. - so before you judge, do some due diligence of your own. This is not the forum for your condescension.
     
    #64     Nov 18, 2018
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  5. What? You yourself provided this information in your earlier post. And yes, if I invest my IRA with a guy who has had two complaints against him (whether he settled them or not is irrelevant in this picture) then I need to consider myself gullible or greedy. You had and have the choice to invest money with thousands of portfolio managers with unblemished records yet you chose a black sheep. Not saying you deserve what is coming to you but don't you think you were quite shortsighted in your choice?

    And how do you know which occupations other investors have? You stated you could not yet reach out to other investors and do not know them. It is you who spreads false information with lots of conjectures. Are you even an affected client or just making up grand stories? Just wondering as your contradictions keep adding up...

     
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    #65     Nov 18, 2018
  6. PJB1994

    PJB1994

    I contacted the lawyer because he was soliciting for business in this matter though that website, and I wanted to get some information. He is still trying to contact the affected clients. No contradiction and doesn't seem to be confusing in any way.
     
    #66     Nov 18, 2018
  7. Well then no need to ask how you can reach out to other clients. Ask your lawyer.

     
    #67     Nov 18, 2018
  8. PJB1994

    PJB1994

    Losses that occurred with the exchange going out of business do not seem directly related to Cordier's conduct at that time and affected all individuals dealing with that exchange. As to the other complaint, the adjudicating body found that Cordier conducted himself properly in some respects, but made an error as part of closing down that client's account. You can easily find this on the internet and read for yourself. I am not greedy and was looking for relatively modest returns from what was supposed to be a very conservatively managed strategy. Ratio credit spreads, other types of vertical spreads and other risk mitigation strategies are well understood by practitioners in this space and Cordier himself advocated these techniques in his book, videos, and personal representations. A person is not gullible if such techniques are available, perform their desired function in limiting risk, are understood and practiced by industry practitioners, and are assured by their money manager that he is an expert in such practice and techniques and that client funds will be managed conservatively in accordance with conservative principles. This person deceived us and induced us to enter into a relationship with him that deviated from his stated approach. From my point of view, his actions are in breach of contract and his fiduciary responsibilities, tortious, and criminal in some regards, and I expect that a court will likely find this to be the case. In any event, I do not want to further engage in this rhetoric with you since you seem determined to slander me and the other victims.
     
    #68     Nov 18, 2018
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  9. PJB1994

    PJB1994

    He's not my lawyer. He's one lawyer interested in setting up a class action lawsuit who I contacted.
     
    #69     Nov 18, 2018
  10. guru

    guru

    #70     Nov 18, 2018
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