options strategy.. pls help me to improve

Discussion in 'Options' started by turco_directo, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. ironchef is correct. Options prob not the optimal way to daytrade tickers. IF YOU MUST, your best bet is to do an ATM vertical where both legs straddle the current price. It is most likely the most liquid, and the least exposed to the other greeks (theta,gamma, vega)- the closest delta play you can have. That means however, that you can't count on theta to enhance your return.BUT since theta is not an issue as much, this means you can avoid the entry on thursday , exit on friday thingy... :)
     
    #11     Jun 13, 2017
  2. In options trading you just need to learn how to take advantage of the flexibility and full power of options as a trading vehicle. So, it’s essential to get a solid foundation to be certain you understand how options work and how they can help you achieve your goals in trading. Here is an article by my trading mentor, which might help you with other options trading strategies, if you want to try.
    https://steadyoptions.com/articles/top-10-options-trading-strategies-r144/


     
    #12     Aug 16, 2017
  3. BarbaraJ

    BarbaraJ

    No single trading strategy is perfect and no strategy will work all the time. To paraphrase a famous quote, "it's not the strategy that matters, it's how you use it".
     
    #13     Nov 2, 2017
  4. spindr0

    spindr0

    As Ironchef suggested, "Day trading the underlying is hard enough, day trading options is even harder."

    As Vanzandt suggested, "In the first hour or so on the volatile stocks of the day the bid ask spread is going to be quite large... and ... your price to get in and get out of the show will eat up your account."

    If your system has any merit, trade the stock. Overcoming the option spread and reduced delta requires more accuracy and a larger move in order to be profitable.
     
    #14     Nov 3, 2017
  5. ironchef

    ironchef

    I agree with vanzandt and spindr0, if you "have to get out of a trade", first hour is a very tough place to be.

    As for day trading options, there is a counter point posted by MrScalper not long ago, he said the same price action chart should be used to trade so a good day trader could do well day trading options? After some experimenting recently I think his point has merit.

    I welcome any comments.
     
    #15     Nov 3, 2017
  6. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Yes, it will be tough. Implied volatility will be as important if not more important than price change. Make sure you have a robust tool to analyze the implied volatility of the strike(s) your trading.
     
    #16     Nov 3, 2017
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    Yes, I thought so too but when I tracked the IV of the options I owned, often they did not change that much on a very short time scale (like a few min) so to day trade options on a short time scale maybe I only have to deal with price change?

    I welcome your comments.

    Regards,
     
    #17     Nov 3, 2017
  8. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    "Yes, I thought so too but when I tracked the IV of the options I owned, often they did not change that much on a very short time scale (like a few min) so to day trade options on a short time scale maybe I only have to deal with price change?"

    No ! Events will be accompanied by IV changes.
     
    #18     Nov 3, 2017
  9. I daytrade a specific ETF and typically wait until a couple of hours after the open to jump in. I mostly trade long ATM calls. My entry timing is set up by simple TA but I look at price action (holding at support, clearing resistance, etc.) to enter.

    My biggest problem is usually too much position size. Once that thing is moving against you, it's hard to bail. Too much delta = big loss. Smaller position size makes it easier to ride a trend when you're right, often with a trailing stop.
     
    #19     Nov 4, 2017
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  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    Appreciate your comments. I think having a tight bid/ask spread and lots of volume are important to day trading options.

    Regards,
     
    #20     Nov 4, 2017