Options scalping

Discussion in 'Journals' started by sideeyeseal, Oct 9, 2020.

  1. ZM 500 calls
    Entries: 3.00, 2.80
    Exits: 4.00, 3.50, 3.90
    30%

    AAPL 116.25 calls
    Entries: 0.49
    Exits: 0.55, 0.60
    16%

    NFLX 545 calls
    Entries: 1.60, 1.60
    Exits: 2.20, 2.00
    31%

    TSLA 433 calls
    Entries: 3.50
    Exits: 3.01
    -14%

    Stray thoughts:
    • ZM carried my day (as it should've). Every trade should strive to be like this one :cool:
     
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  2. Congratulation on a profitable set of trades. I would be interested in the length of time for each trade. From reading ET posts on "scalping", the definition can wildly very from one trader to the next.
     
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  3. since the option spread is huge, how can you overcome the slippage? If you buy sitting on the bid, you will almost never get hit unless the underlying price comes down to hit you,thus you are immediately in a loss.
     
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  4. Thanks. I actually meant to note down "time to first scale-out" but I'll start doing that in my next update. Now that I think about it, "time to first scale-out" and "total time in trade" would probably be useful to include.

    As for these specific trades, total time in trade was:
    ZM 10 minutes
    AAPL 3 minutes
    NFLX 25 minutes
    TSLA 3 minutes

    Historically, my best trades are in the 1-6 minute range. Outside of leaving on small runners, positions lasting more than an hour are usually me stubbornly sitting in a loser (yikes). Maybe being compelled to include those in this journal will help me minimize them.

    I plan on eventually moving to a platform that allows for more elegant control over entries (e.g. hotkey to limit at mid, or mid + 0.10, for example). But presently I do typically enter at the ask. The vast majority of my setups are breakout-/momentum-oriented, so I'm looking for a rapid (ideally within 3-10 seconds) spike that will let me scale out at least half, and see if the move is "real."

    Of course, I try to avoid options with wide spreads. For me, something like 2.60 x 3.00 would be right on the border of acceptable. For better or for worse, this means passing up on a lot of moves in tickers that I'm watching (e.g. SHOP, LULU).

    Knowing the ticker can help a lot, too. Sometimes an option on TWTR or SDC or something might be .41 x .47 for a few moments, but with experience, you'll be able to make an educated guess on whether that's about to narrow down to .52 x .54 on an up move.
     
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  5. qlai

    qlai

    Weeklies?
     
  6. Yep, always.
     
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  7. qlai

    qlai

    Why options vs the underlying?
     
  8. They

    They

    Especially for Momo trades. Wouldn't you be paying the largest premium chasing a price move?
     
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  9. For breakout/momo I'm basically buying high and selling higher. Typically 1 or 2 strikes OTM contracts spike up more than the underlying would.

    (Also, I haven't traded shares of stock in 6+ years, so it's just not my thing.)
     
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  10. Poljot

    Poljot

    Hi,
    Have you tried deep ITM as well ?
     
    #10     Oct 10, 2020