Options math 101 - Net returns from an unexercised put

Discussion in 'Options' started by tonyf, Jul 23, 2020.

  1. tonyf

    tonyf

    I find Greeks much more confusing!
     
    #31     Jul 24, 2020
  2. tonyf

    tonyf

    10% using your calculation is where I am getting at across my watchlist!
    It seems to be a reference in the market.
     
    #32     Jul 24, 2020
  3. guru

    guru


    Wait till your broker actually shows you negative equity for selling puts or calls (taking on risk).
    Today Interactive Brokers wants to give me negative -$12,456 margin/equity, just for selling 5 naked calls on SPX:
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    They'd lock me in a psych ward if I'd try to calculate my ROE or even ROI on this :)
     
    #33     Jul 24, 2020
  4. Poljot

    Poljot

    #34     Jul 24, 2020
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    Try this, see what happens...

    @destriero

    *runs behind a bunker*
     
    #35     Jul 24, 2020
  6. tonyf

    tonyf

    My question is not that much 101 after all!
    Options have such a bad reputation and making simple components such as what I am raising here so murky does not help!
     
    #36     Jul 25, 2020
  7. xandman

    xandman

    Not murky, but multi-faceted. Options traders can definitely be accused of mental masturbation.

    Here is the bottom line:

    If you were to fund an account and be able to do this one trade, all you would have to put up is 50,147 to enter the trade. Without it, your order will be rejected.

    That is the initial equity for your calculation.
     
    #37     Jul 26, 2020
  8. tonyf

    tonyf

    Yes.
     
    #38     Jul 26, 2020