Options Lambda / Leverage info?

Discussion in 'Options' started by zghorner, Jan 23, 2021.

  1. ironchef

    ironchef

    If you are a fellow retail, this is dangerous thinking, margin on options is leverage on leverage. Quite often it can lead to a very risky situation. It may be better to think of using options to juice your portfolio, like @Handle123 said a while ago.

    If you are a pro, it is a different story. You know what you are doing and you trade OPM. My opinion does not apply.
     
    #11     Jan 24, 2021
  2. To be clear: I was trying to construct a portfolio of options that had the same return as TQQQ. The reason the gamma is zero is to match TQQQ maintaining a constant leverage ratio.
     
    #12     Jan 24, 2021
  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    Sorry I missed your point. In that case just make sure the commission + slippages is less than TQQQ expense ratio.
     
    #13     Jan 24, 2021
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  4. zghorner

    zghorner

    I think you have misunderstood my post. I’m not talking about using margin to provide further leverage. I’m talking about the option contract’s lambda, or inherit/built in leverage. Lambda = (Delta x underlying $ / premium $).

    Options tend to provide around 5-15x leverage depending mainly on moneyness. I am wanting to learn more about lambda’s change as the underlying price changes. I’m sure Delta->gamma->speed can tell me more than I need to know but I am just curious about lambda specifically.
     
    #14     Jan 24, 2021
  5. One other thought here: I tried backtesting some LEAPS strategies based on their leverage ratio rather than their delta. Both measures ended up with a lot of failed portfolios, because delta and lambda get crazy as the option approaches expiration. For example, I tried backtesting buying leaps with a lambda of between 3 and 4, and selling when it went below 2 (I won), or above 6 (I lost). To avoid volatility drag, I only traded once every 2 weeks. This strategy performed pretty bad, because near expiration, a lambda of 6 is terrible, and will result in ruin. However, for options with 2-3 years left, 6 is actually great, because the underlying went up on average. My finding was that lambda was only relevant for entering the position, but the remaining time was more relevant for exiting the position.
     
    #15     Jan 24, 2021
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  6. zghorner

    zghorner

    This is the kind of info I crave, thanks for the reply.
     
    #16     Jan 24, 2021
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    My apology. I take it back, you can ignore my post.
     
    #17     Jan 24, 2021
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  8. zghorner

    zghorner

    No worries man. Maybe one day I’ll have the nuts to gear up some directional options trades lol...it’s probably best that I don’t as of current.
     
    #18     Jan 24, 2021
  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    I am used to losing.

    Trading is a probability game, often a statistically significant number of trades are necessary to validate a profitable system, or to prove that it is not.
     
    #19     Jan 25, 2021