Options.,... Argh... no more!!

Discussion in 'Options' started by Jdesey, Feb 28, 2022.

  1. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    So it is an issue of overtrading, one of the biggest trading pitfalls facing us retail traders.
     
    #61     Mar 2, 2022
  2. taowave

    taowave

    Yes,I am typically long 1 short 2/3..Rarely backspread,except when I roll my long call strike up.or long put strike down...

    I believe/hope for sticky delta....

    FWIW,I am essentially a market maker and if I get legged on the short side.I scramble very quickly into a ratio...And I limit ratios to large cap liquid names,much larger on the upside...

     
    #62     Mar 2, 2022
  3. taowave

    taowave

    If I remember correctly,Meriwether was leveraged something like 50-1 and grinding out 50 bps per trade..Over-leveraged was the issue


     
    #63     Mar 2, 2022
  4. Is there a particular delta you like to have your long and shorts at?
     
    #64     Mar 2, 2022
  5. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    He is probably trading the deeps for price arbitrage i dunno.
     
    #65     Mar 2, 2022
  6. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Over-leveraging for overtrading. When you have so much exposure that a financial crisis can take you completely out, you have overtraded.
     
    #66     Mar 2, 2022
  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    why would you want to be long a stock that you expect to rally less than the premium of the put.

    if you have the view that the stock won’t rally much, you shouldn’t want to own it.
    But now you a view on volatility (to my earlier post) and selling a straddle might be a good trade.
     
    #67     Mar 2, 2022
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    read when genius failed. It’s a fascinating story.

    the didnt blow up because of options. They blew up on three things:

    Bond spreads blew out
    They were the largest short in spx variance.
    They understood all the Greeks but one: hubris. (To quote an ex-colleague of Taos)
     
    #68     Mar 2, 2022
  9. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    I am sure the book is fascinating but to me, there is no "genius" in trading. Trading is just risk management. Everybody is on borrowed money. Eventually everybody gives back. It's just a matter of when. Lehman Brothers lasted for 161 years and Bears & Sterns toughed it out for 85 years. The goal is trying to last as long as you can and make sure it doesn't happen in your lifetime and/or the lifetime of as many of your descendants as possible.
     
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    #69     Mar 2, 2022
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  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    how does a dumb person practice risk management the same as a smart person?
     
    #70     Mar 2, 2022
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