Option trade idea on YHOO

Discussion in 'Options' started by hajimow, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. hajimow

    hajimow

    Many people don't do that. The profit would be 1.1% in 3 weeks or 14% a year. Yes I know it is low !!. 200% profit is normal in the market:)
     
    #171     Nov 2, 2012
  2. hajimow

    hajimow

    Update:

    YHOO has gone up from the time that I called it a short. I am still shorting it and at the same time selling PUT to maximize the profit. This is the same YHOO which was traded at $14 3 months ago. These are the last days of the run up. No stock goes up or down for ever. I also know two hedge funds are shorting it.
     
    #172     Nov 2, 2012
  3. mutluit

    mutluit

    The rise of the market on the 1st can IMO be explained with the fact that retail gets it's paycheck on that day...
     
    #173     Nov 3, 2012
  4. What price did you short YHOO at?
    Any plans to cover?
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=YHOO&t=5d&l=on&z=l&q=b&c=
     
    #174     Nov 5, 2012
  5. mutluit

    mutluit

    http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/m...ig+and+bank+of+america/default.aspx?ID=113571
    "
    Even with YHOO reaching another annual trading high today, option players are assuming a bearish course of action. The December 16-strike put has seen 4,800 contracts trade today (easily outpacing open interest), and 99% of the volume has changed hands at or near the ask price. These put buyers are betting on a pullback in the shares between now and December 21, as the breakeven point (at expiration) is $15.85, or the strike price less the average premium paid ($0.15 per contract).
    "
     
    #175     Nov 5, 2012
  6. mutluit

    mutluit

    My Dec puts are deep in the reds: -32% :confused: :D
    But I still think it can turn to a profitable trade,
    even about +50% profit is IMHO realistic if two conditions are met:
    1) IV rise from now 27% to 30% in the next 2 weeks
    2) drop of YHOO by 2 or more %
    and both are realistic I think...

    just playing with my options calculator...
     
    #176     Nov 5, 2012
  7. What exactly is your YHOO trade?
    Did you mean to say you need a drop of 2 % or 2 points???
     
    #177     Nov 5, 2012
  8. mutluit

    mutluit

    I have only the Puts (one slightly ITM strike and the other is OTM, bought via secondary market, ie. YHOO Puts issued by a European bank, UBS, but the development is almost 1:1 to the US quotes (after currency conversion).
    And re the underlying (YHOO): I mean percent, not points.
    To be clear: both conditions must be met: IV rise _and_ stock drop... only then will it work for me...
    If IV stays the same then stock has to drop at least 3% or so for break even... :(
     
    #178     Nov 5, 2012
  9. I'm confused.
    You said your puts are in the red by 32% and you only need the stock to drop 2 - 3% to break even?
    Isn't a 2 % drop in YHOO only about $0.34 - $0.35.
     
    #179     Nov 5, 2012
  10. mutluit

    mutluit

    As said:2% drop of stock + 3% increase of vola, OR yes, 3+% stock drop alone.
    The vola usually will rise when the stock turns south... based on simple chart reading, TA...
     
    #180     Nov 5, 2012