My first carry trade log. I will convert to USD on FX exotics, but the spot FX positions will remain in their respective base-currencies for obvious reasons. For convenience and ease of reading I will define a USD pip value with each trade. Long 7mm units GBP/JPY at 212.64 [$580 USD current pip value] GBP/JPY 215.20 no touch Premium: $188,600 Payout: $302,100 [includes prem paid] Expires: Dec 30, 2005 Position earns $149,000USD on spot if the no touch barrier is reached, or an approx net-position [loss] of [$39,000USD] before interest carry. This trade is analogous to any of the short synthetic equity index [exotic] trades I've done. I'll update the position when/if the barrier is reached, or downside paring of spot or touch is needed. Interest carry to date in USD will be noted as well. I tend to marry a spot position for as long as I can; due to 1) execution edge loss, and 2) limited +carry-pairs offering reasonable exotic markets.
YW, B. I don't know how proper it is, but it has some cushion. I actually am beginning to hate this trade -- will likely reduce the spot position to 5mm units.
Hmm the yen did take a breather and the GBPJPY had been JPY negative for a while. Dont really keep up with that pair so dont know how it will project into the future. I am liking the carry trading idea over at Electric's thread. Just a little worried about the full exposure and problems that may show up in a high stress event. Otherwise I think its great stuff.
Quote from riskarb: Long 7mm units GBP/JPY at 212.64 [$580 USD current pip value] Sold 2mm units at 212.73 -- 5mm units remain against the 215.20 no touch. +$5,200
Hi Risk arb What is the +ve interst spread offered by UBS while shorting yen & Buying Pound? NZ$ offers the highest interst among the majors.Is it worthwhile? No touch means - Do you get paid only when 215.20 is touched?If not Do you loose the premium? I understand that you can keep the interest(will cushion your loss?)even if touch barrier is not reached? Yours truly was a import export trader based in Asia for a long time.Buying large quantities of goods in Yen/Euro/S$ & selling to China (Via Hong Kong- US$:HK$ Peg) forced me to cover the currency risk thro forwards at the Bank. {Then it led to some speculation in spot forex & then on to stocks >Equity options.} Hong Kong /Singapore Banking systems are truly phenominal.Retail clients can maintain Time deposits (as low as 1 month) IN NZ$,A$,CAD$,GBP apart from Thai Bhat,Peso,Rupiah etc.I keep some% of cash assets in high yield currencies (with out leverage) just for the interest rate. Look forward to your posting in this thread Sammy
I'll let you know when I take a look at my carry-credit on my blotter. I keep a spreadsheet with the carry adjusted for leverage, but haven't updated the sheet. I lose the premium if the 215.20 barrier is reached. I receive $300k inclusive of the premium paid + the interested credit if the 215.20 barrier is not reached.