Option fill price

Discussion in 'Options' started by john7722, Jan 26, 2022.

  1. mskl

    mskl

    John:

    I trade over 100K contracts per month and all of my orders are entered manually. I can tell you that what happened to you happens to me many times per day. Read FSU's post re the auction process (most Exchanges have this). Yes, this is yet another reason there are so many arb opportunities in the options market - no one will sell to you at $1.10 but then some idiot will sell at .96. Think about it - the seller was definitely a PRO. (virtually all liquidity trades in the auction process are from Pro's)

    The auction process (say 75% of the time) will result in a different fill (not always better). Think of it as two different markets (regular and auction). There are reasons why this "idiot" pro initially ignored your limit order. (none of them would matter to you)

    I've been doing Option Arb for over 20 years and the key to success is learning about these types of things. Over 70% of my fills come from MM types (machines). Very important to understand the machines and how they are programmed and also - NEVER overestimate the intelligence of the Pro's/MM's.


    Best of luck
     
    #11     Jan 26, 2022
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  2. LM3886

    LM3886

    Just curious how did you get this number? I know the other side of my trade is probably MM but I don't have that info in the trade reports.
     
    #12     Jan 28, 2022
  3. mskl

    mskl

    estimate. There is no report as to who is on the other side of your trades. However, when you enter a buy order and get filled instantly (ie your order never shows up in the NBBO - at least you don't see it) - that is a machine selling to you. This is why you are likely better off using a fill or kill type order. Sitting limit orders typically are not the best type of order to enter.


    Probably 99% of all orders in the market are electronically generated
     
    #13     Jan 28, 2022
  4. mwalsh17

    mwalsh17

    A seller came in at the market. You got lucky.
     
    #14     Jan 31, 2022
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    I don't need to know options to know that that is messed up.

    Algos gone wild, man.
     
    #15     Feb 7, 2022
  6. mwalsh17

    mwalsh17

    I doubt that 99% of orders are generated electronically, filled maybe but not generated. Besides very large options transactions are done OTC.
     
    #16     Feb 7, 2022