Optimization of a trading system with avoidance of curve fitting.

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by albertly, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. DT-waw

    DT-waw


    selection may also turn out to be bad.
    exactly like with parameters- may turn out to be good or bad in the future.
    correct- everything is selection, choice. you select the markets, time frames, general type of strategy, parameters.

    If your returns were great by choosing Gold as the only market to trade in the last 2 years, its just curve fitting to this particular market...

    semantics.
    the only thing that matters with trading systems is:
    how to adapt to ever changing market conditions: trends, volatility, bid-ask spreads, volume.
    forecasts, neural networks or tech. indicators: it totally does not matter.
    the question is: how a particular method responds to changing markets?
    how much it can potentially lose when market is noisy, random or going strongly in one direction?
     
    #41     Sep 2, 2011
  2. Eight

    Eight

    You seem to assume that there is no system that escapes randomness...
     
    #42     Sep 2, 2011
  3. DT-waw

    DT-waw

    the opposite.
    systems based on variety of methods (incl all tech. indicators) are capable of making huge returns on markets. reason: markets overshoot very much, driven by crazy emotional "investors".
     
    #43     Sep 2, 2011
  4. DT-waw

    DT-waw

    thanks, i'm aware of 100s of CTAs performance.
    most of them ( except giants like Winton, QIM) totally don't care about risk. most don't have the slightest clue how to reach 30% p.a. returns. , because they focus and have credentials solely within marketing and sales.

    anyway, markets will change and will trend. those who will adapt will survive
     
    #44     Sep 2, 2011
  5. That is exactly what he (DT-waw) assumes but the funny thing is that he doesn't understand his own assumptions and later comes to invalidate them. He is also using them selectively.
     
    #45     Sep 3, 2011