Bingo. I'm surprised MRBRETTONWOODS kept going as long as he did.. I stopped bothering after just a few posts when it became clear volpunter either was trolling or can only read at a 3rd grade level... It's cute how he constantly tries to twist people's words (or lack of response) into some sort of pseudo agreement with his arguments.
says the one with way too many emotions at stake (your quote: "ms (Microsoft) is for you but not for me. happy to see ms is struggling....and losing in many fronts") No wonder you are fumbling with your backtests if you are guided by emotions like you clearly displayed so far. Do your work with YOUR tools of choice and if that works for you then you should not have time to down talk other tools and technologies. Note that in not one single post did I discourage people to use Linux if that works for them. All along I have merely been asking which part of Windows or .Net unables people to do their job, and so far not one credible argument surfaced...
just because you cannot add simple numbers together ? (http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?t=283395&page=16) And especially you do not seem to understand that when 10,000,000 servers are polled on a daily basis, that responding servers are obviously not dead. So, if among Windows and Linux servers half servers are identified as Windows Servers and the other half as Linux ones then that in my book is a pretty good estimate of number of windows vs linux servers in the public domain. I do not see a credible argument why that number would be hugely different in the private corporate space (excluding super computing and HPC, which number is incredibly small relative to all servers in operation). Tell me where my logic is wrong other than just landing like a pigeon in this thread, placing your poop and attacking people personally and then vanishing into thin air. Otherwise just shut up and participate in the threads that you enjoy and think you can add value. Fair suggestion?
your logic is wrong because you are at a wrong place at a wrong time and say a lot of clueless words to wrong audience. there are hundreds of oses you know and not know, pick any, ask the same question: what cannot do on it if you can do on any other one. this kind of question is nothing. it will be definitely more fun to you and open source/linux community too if you go there and show your muscle there. most of ET people here are opportunists. no time on shit.
Here is the original question : "I currently use a window machine, and have at most of my actual job placements. What are some other options in terms of OS? What do other major banks use? How do I go about starting on another OS besides Windows?" I simply asked why would someone with general software and application requirements want and need to switch to Linux if he/she had everything setup and running on a Windows machine. This is the topic, and if you have a new topic in mind why don't you start a new thread or else answer the OP's question and name reasons why someone should discard everything they have paid for so far , (basically writing it off completely) and switching to Linux. In addition, how does the new life in Linux serve all their requirements and needs? According to my understanding an average Joe has even problems watching Netflix on a Linux box because it still relies on Silverlight (which has issues running on Linux and HTML5 is not yet managing DRM well). For the non-average Joe, a financial professional the answer is also simple: Neither Reuters nor Bloomberg run well/at all on Linux. And the list goes on and on and on. Need Excel and/or need to run add-ins that were specifically designed for MS Excel (and would not run on open source spreadsheet apps)? Guess what, you are also out of luck with Linux. Want to run .Net code on Linux? Think your code can be easily adopted to run on Mono? Guess what, your own code may, but all the referenced dlls may not and you do not have excess to the source code. See, unless you are FULLY SERVED with the open-source apps that work on Linux life on a Linux box is not as convenient as some of you try to convince the rest of the crowd of. All I am is asking questions and responding to points I disagree with. If you cannot answer the question OP was asking then either a) you are the troll here and not others, or b) you have no clue and should not participate, or c) you could actually try harder and answer his/her question. Its really that simple. => Let's stop personally attacking each other and rather be constructive. Show me how Netflix works without a hitch on Linux, show me how Bloomberg runs without issues on Linux, show me how Excel and specific add-ins run well in Linux. Do they? Show me and I bow to you, pronounce publicly what an ignorant idiot I was and install Linux tomorrow. <= Thanks
You must be referring to a coloring book then...because the more you post, the more it seems like the sharpest writing utensil you're allowed to use is a crayon. You said: So in short you claimed that 50%, or half, of all websites "TODAY", run on Windows. Then, you provided your "Source" (being wikipedia no less,) and said it was the "FACTS". Your source pointed to a few resources, and they did NOT back up your claim. If anything, they reinforced what others were saying against your argument: Web servers polled came back as 32.6% Windows. Last I checked, 1/3rd did not equal half. That's a big difference. (And yet you accuse me of not being able to add up simple numbers.. funny that.) In fact, the only mention of ""50%"" in the link you provided as "proof" and "FACTS" was in the industry sales stats for all servers sold as collected by IDC, without context to what they are used for (notice it's not "all web servers sold" but just "all server hardware".) And this is only tracking the major branded hardware vendors (like HP, Dell, etc..), it doesn't include companies who build out their own hardware from scratch (that's right, they design the server themselves from the hardware layer up) that runs linux (both Facebook and Google do this extensively for example..) Not to mention it doesn't track servers that came bundled with Windows which were then wiped clean and had other OS' installed. Now here's the best part: You read the 50% line but you failed to grasp its context and how that "50%" number was irrelevant to your claim about current websites being run by MS products. You went on to assert that the 50% number comes from polling websites online (the method they used to get the 32.6% number from an entirely different citation on Wikipedia.) Before you go refuting that, remember, you said this: And I haven't even gone into detail about how I responded with my own sources that narrowed down the ~1/3rd estimate to a pitiful 12% once you take active vs non-active domains into account... all this post has touched upon so far is just using your own provided "FACTS" and "sources." So yeah, around this point I gave up trying to talk to you before, and I'm about to do it again. You're not dumb, at least, and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you're not functionally illiterate... but you either have the thickest ego possible and can't admit when you're wrong, or you're just trolling and fishing for reactions... Either way I'm pretty disinterested in talking with you further.
I said " So, if among Windows and Linux servers half servers are identified as Windows Servers and the other half as Linux ones". That means if a pool sums up to 100% and in that pool there is a subpool that is made up of Windows and Linux servers, and if that sub pool consists of about 66% off the total, and if that subpool is split between Windows and Linux by around 50/50 within that subpool , then that means Linux makes up about 33% off the total and Windows another 33% (add or take away a couple %). By the way Unix made up the remaining 34% or so off the total. That is where my statement 1/2 is coming from and I made it crystal clear that I was talking about the split between Windows and Linux itself. are you a) plain stupid? b) have issues comprehending English? (its not even my first language but I think it is pretty clear the way I worded it ) c) or are you just the jackass you are and know full well what I said but like to cause discontent? I am not surprised anymore that pretty much every thread you participated in seems to derail sooner or later.
He is confirmed to be hftvol: http://elitetrader.com/vb/showpost.php?p=3981332&postcount=123 He does this every year, before he was amazingindustry, then he retired, then he became hftvol, and now he's 'volpunter'. He literally must not talk about this subject for no other reason than pure trolling, considering his similar sentiments in the .net beats jvm thread: www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?t=259172 I would prefer it if he talked more about his custom binary data-store and architecture. Obviously, this a sensitive issue for him, as he wrote it in .net, so he has unintentionally bonded his core infrastructure to windows, on the other hand, vs . people who code c++ on linux (which is open-source) or java, so they don't really care. However, any and all interesting tidbits of information may prove interesting nonetheless. I wonder what the end-to-end latency for his system is. Are you going to talk about this system at all, hftvolpunter?
I did not know users retire and then come back to this site to waste more time with idiots of your kind? Please do not make me laugh. I already had enough from a few pages, its absurd to exchange one more thought with someone of such low intellect. Good luck with your linux journey.