Operating System Choice

Discussion in 'App Development' started by SunnyIsles, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. my goodness, lol, yes I am this I am that, I work for the government and MS, and I am other users. You guys are the real deal. As MrBrettonWoods reminded me of, its time to say adios. Unfortunately nobody here could cite a single reason why Linux should be the OS of choice for the average person, nor for the computer literate, nor for the professional programmer and developer. Sad that everyone could just hack on a person because he did not conform to their opinions or ways to talk or argue. I have no problem with being attacked, I am also harsh at times, but I find it sad that nobody could argue a coherent line of reasoning in favor of Linux. Let me shut up now, maybe a more meaningful discussion will develop without me. I doubt it but there is always hope.
     
    #91     May 22, 2014
  2. I'll make you eat your words now


    It was exactly an article on the SIP, but you don't even have the honor to bring it up, because you are a troll and a degenerate. It is your trolling article, and given your idiocy in referencing it multiple times, you should refrain from posting.
     
    #92     May 22, 2014
  3. #93     May 22, 2014
  4. that's the article on SIP , correct. And I linked to a different article where they talked about outages in the central matching engine and Nasdaq officials blamed it on Windows Server and that article was dated 2013. You are too arrogant to ever admit you may have overlooked or skipped things here or there. I will not reply to anything Nasdaq related anymore because it seems all you intend here is to make a point about this issue which never has been the focal point of this whole discussion. You simply get an F grade, "missed the topic"!!!


     
    #94     May 22, 2014
  5. You did not mention it, because it simply does not exist, look over the history again, simply regurgitating the same thing over and over does not change that you never referenced it once. Being the idiot that you are, you referred to the SIP system as the matching system, thus you accept your idiocy.

    No, all the articles relating to the outages in 2013, are for the SIP system, nothing to do with matching, any search result, or any wsj article on the subject confirms the same.

    NASDAQ's trading platform is instinet inet, which runs on linux.
     
    #95     May 22, 2014
  6. you cannot even afford a WSJ subscription, so how would you know what the article states, fact being its behind the pay wall. You are a moron who still does not get the point that this thread is about Operating Systems and that OP most likely meant it in the context of the average user here and not how governments or exchanges think of it. I used examples to point out that Windows Server is indeed capable of scaling and serving large data throughput and computations at low latencies. Maybe not as scalable as a linux box but nonetheless it is nowhere as underperforming as you claim it to be. The real troll is you, you have only attacked me without still having answered my question from many pages ago:

    "Where does Linux serve you better than a Windows OS? What can a Linux box do that you cannot do on a Windows OS? " . Your silence basically means you see no perceivable benefit, at least your silence is silent agreement.
     
    #96     May 23, 2014
  7. ALL WSJ articles are free, there is no paywall, just do a google search, and then hit the redirect link, anyone can read them, and it specifically is related to the SIP, retard. And as per a search on your username, that's the only ever article you posted on this subject, you confused it with the sip, like I said:

    The text of that article:

    U.S. Exchanges Near Deal for Infrastructure Upgrade
    Market Plumbing Known as Securities Information Processors Was Behind August Trading Outage

    By BRADLEY HOPE
    Dec. 15, 2013 4:28 p.m. ET
    U.S. exchanges are near an agreement to upgrade a central piece of the country's trading infrastructure that critics say has been neglected and caused a serious market outage in August, according to people with knowledge of the discussions.

    Designed to avoid another large-scale breakdown, the plan would establish faster backups for a key part of the market's plumbing known as securities information processors, or SIPs, which consolidate the quote and trade data from exchanges before it is displayed to the public.

    Wall Street firms and analysts, as well as a trade group for the industry, say the systems have been chronically underfunded. They point to the outage in August, when a software problem on one SIP stopped trading in Nasdaq-listed stocks for three hours.

    That SIP, operated by Nasdaq OMX Group Inc. NDAQ +0.17% runs on the decade-old Windows 2003 operating system, according to four people familiar with the technical specifications. Nasdaq is in the process of updating its SIP operating system to a more recent version, according to people familiar with the plans.

    The operating system wasn't identified as a cause of the SIP's failure in August, but some exchange executives and analysts point to the incident as symptomatic of a lack of investment in the technology.

    The other SIP that supplies data to U.S. markets is operated by NYSE Euronext, which uses different software to run its processor.

    Representatives of Nasdaq and NYSE declined to comment.

    "This is a part of the industry that has not been paid of a lot of attention, even by insiders, for years," said William O'Brien, chief executive officer of DirectEdge Holdings LLC. "Going forward, we're called to do better. Improving the governance and transparency of how the SIP operates is going to be pivotal."

    DirectEdge is among the exchanges that sit on committees overseeing the SIPs. Mr. O'Brien declined to comment on proposals being discussed or the specific details of SIP operations.

    The SIPs are big business for the exchanges. When trades are placed, that data is sent to the two SIPs, and then sold to market-data subscribers. The buyers include media outlets, brokers and other trading venues.

    Income from the two SIPs, forecast to be roughly $400 million for 2013, according to a July filing to the Securities and Exchange Commission from NYSE, is divided among the exchanges through a formula that weighs the volume of quotes and trades. The Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, Wall Street's self-funded regulator, also gets a share of the revenue.

    Wall Street firms, through their trade association, issued a broad criticism this month of the exchanges' operation of the SIPs.

    The Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association said the "current system suffers from a lack of transparency and competition, questions of underfunding and insulated governance," in a comment letter filed to the SEC on Dec. 5.

    "The issue in August really brought people's focus to the issues," Theodore R. Lazo, a Sifma managing director and associate general counsel, said in an interview. "It was the coalescing factor and showed the importance of the SIPs in the overall operation of the market."

    Mr. Lazo said the exchanges have little incentive to upgrade the SIPs because they make additional fees by selling separate, higher-speed data feeds to banks, brokerage firms and other customers. Exchanges in the past have said the separate feeds serve different functions.

    Still, other analysts echoed Mr. Lazo's criticism.

    Jeffrey Wallis, managing partner of SunGard Consulting Services, which focuses on financial services, said the SIPs are a "highly regulated monopoly…that's why there has been very little innovation in the technical framework around SIPs for the last 10 years."

    Protecting the markets from technological disruptions has become a core concern of regulators. The SEC ordered the exchanges in September to review SIP backup capabilities and financial infrastructure in response to the Nasdaq outage.

    The plan to back up the SIPs is in part a response to that request.

    The 13 U.S. exchanges and Finra, which together oversee the SIPs through committees, have agreed to strengthen backups so that markets could be restored within 10 to 15 minutes of a technical error, according to people familiar with the discussions.

    To do this, backup systems will run "warm," meaning they will receive some market data throughout the trading day so they can be brought online quickly if needed, the people said.

    The exchanges are also examining a long-term plan to create "hot-hot" backups, which would allow for a near instantaneous switch to backups that are running at full speed alongside the main SIPs.

    In addition, the exchanges are developing a set of rules that would allow SIP operators to shut down a connection with an exchange if the exchange is found to be sending erroneous or excessive amounts of data.

    The August outage was caused by an unexpected influx of quote data from NYSE Arca, which overwhelmed Nasdaq's SIP and forced technicians to shut it down temporarily, according to Nasdaq's description of the outage from August.

    Another potential change being discussed is to turn the current operating committee for the Nasdaq processor into a limited liability company to improve oversight and governance, people familiar with the matter said.

    Write to Bradley Hope at bradley.hope@dowjones.com
     
    #97     May 23, 2014
  8. @MRBRETTONWOODS -> "Where does Linux serve you better than a Windows OS? What can a Linux box do that you cannot do on a Windows OS? " . Your silence basically means you see no perceivable benefit, at least your silence is silent agreement.
     
    #98     May 23, 2014
  9. Craig66

    Craig66

    Everybody knows all the big money is made on HURD.
     
    #99     May 23, 2014
  10. aqtrader

    aqtrader

    wrong. because they are wasting their time on your crap.
     
    #100     May 23, 2014