Opening Orders - 2009

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Don Bright, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. Don,

    when you said "NYSE stocks may open at 9:30 or 9:35 etc., based on order flow etc.", does it mean there are two exchanges that have open auction? in that case, how can they assure the open price is the same? if not, then the data we often use in technical analysis including open,high,low,close may have to be reconsidered about its reliability.
     
    #591     Sep 10, 2009
  2. lescor

    lescor

    Each stock opens on the nyse when the specialist is ready to open it. The exchange opens at 9:30, but individual stocks can take up to 10 minutes to open after that. It's quite common for me to have dozens of symbols not open yet 3 or 4 minutes into the day.
     
    #592     Sep 10, 2009
  3. Can't speak for IB, but you still need enough in your account to cover the fills you do get. Pretty sure they monitor in real time and if you hit your max the remaining orders are canceled and/or any positions are closed immediately to get you in line.
     
    #593     Sep 10, 2009
  4. Yes, there are tremendous disparities from the use of "consolidated quotes" vs. "primary marke quotes" - and we have the ability to have either choice on our platform. This works pretty well to ensure we are using the proper "OHLC" data each day.

    Don
     
    #594     Sep 10, 2009
  5. Is it possible that openning price at the other exchanges have better price than on the primary exchange? if so, why not try post orders on those non-primary exchanges?
     
    #595     Sep 10, 2009
  6. Because there is not "opening" - simply pricing based on premarket ECN's etc. NYSE has actual order type of "Opening Only" (OPG).

    Don
     
    #596     Sep 10, 2009
  7. Ordinarily, when everyone is getting frustrated with a strategy, eg. OPG Strategy, I see it as the time that it is most likely swing back and start working again. I wonder if this time is different? Volume is moving away from the primary markets, specialists moving upstairs (SLPs) or out of business... Does any of this serve to increase the edge? Isn't the strategy about specialist participation in the opening print? I wonder if some OPG veterans can chime in on this.
     
    #597     Sep 10, 2009
  8. Maybe only people like Don who has been with this strategy for many years know if OPG nowadays is much less profitable than 5 years ago,or the less profitabiliy results from more people playing it or specialists move out of business.


     
    #598     Sep 10, 2009
  9. Lescor.
    Is the NYSE open staggered?
    eg. Tickers beginning with A-C open at 9:30am, D-F open at 9:32am, etc, etc. Until the very last stocks open at 9:38 or 9:40.

    Maybe this is what happens?

    (I know thats how the ASX open is structured).
     
    #599     Sep 10, 2009
  10. No, they just open when price is determined based on order flow and booked orders.

    FWIW, I generally cancel my opg orders about 3 minutes after the bell (keeps me from being surprised, LOL).

    Don
     
    #600     Sep 11, 2009