Opening Orders - 2009

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Don Bright, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. To continue on that vibe, the idea still remain that with many fills you can average down some losers with the winners. All you need is positive expectation overall to net a profit.
     
    #101     Jan 21, 2009
  2. 5 longs, 4 shorts, 5 winners, but got smoked on a JPM short for net loss; should have pulled from list - smarted from that one all day.
     
    #102     Jan 21, 2009
  3. lescor

    lescor

    Who is this "we" you keep talking about?

     
    #103     Jan 21, 2009
  4. myself and the person I trade with...
     
    #104     Jan 21, 2009
  5. All I can say is I use the very large envelope on many stocks and I can say that I have not made $ doing so.

    However, you will find that if you take official NYSE open data and run a backtest that the larger the stock opens up from fair value the bigger your edge is. It is a very clear correlation, however when you run this live, somehow you are not (or at least I am not) getting the executions you need to match the backtest.

    I have noticed that it seems "most" people use a small list of stocks use a smaller envelope and remove all news stocks.

    I have yet to make a dollar w/ this strategy, so I'm going to try something different
     
    #105     Jan 21, 2009
  6. 2 fills, 2 longs, both winners, +0.10 average.
    Cancelled over 60%
    I could have get much better prices. Got to get better at that.
     
    #106     Jan 22, 2009
  7. Excellent morning. Only 3 fills, but perfect....Hi Fives all around the office.

    GE +14 cents. HPQ + 15 cents. and WYW + 55 cents in 30 seconds.

    And, first day for boot campers...80% winners... a couple of the basic mistakes, but nothing major, yea!

    It's important to instill in the new people, that this strategy is the single best way to start their trading careers. Normally make money, makes you happy in the morning...a more positive attitude to trading in general.


    Don
     
    #107     Jan 22, 2009
  8. 5 fills, all longs, 4 winners. MS loser (-.14), best winner was WYE for .37, kept going from there as well. I had a big sell envelope with no takers.
     
    #108     Jan 22, 2009
  9. 27]Jan

    1:30pm
    Don Bright, Bright Trading, LLC co]founder & card counter turned stock market millionaire
    Topic
    Trading and Poker Parallels: Risk? Yes. Reward? Of Course, But the Similarities Go Deeper
    Bright Trading is one of the largest Professional, Proprietary Stock Trading Firms in the U.S., with trading rooms Nationwide (and Canada) with hundreds of traders. Formed in 1992 by two long time traders and friends, with the intention of providing.

    Don and Bob lecturing at MIT next week.

    I can't invite anyone, a "closed session" but thought I would post just for fun.

    http://www.stocktrading.com/MITevent2009.pdf

    "Professor" Don, LOL.
     
    #109     Jan 22, 2009
  10. C'mon Don; cant get 2 CT trader in the door? :) ; kind of a wash in the am; sloppy fills but overall about .02/share...
     
    #110     Jan 22, 2009