Opening Orders - 2008

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Don Bright, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. I dont yet, I asked people here if they where doing it to have any guidance. I also think it adds some complication to the process.
    The way I see it for doing that you need to be prepared. Having a list of stocks that can be paired and you have to have a real time pair chart. The whole thing could be automated but it would be quite hard. Something like when I lost x $ you look for an extended pair... not sure it would work in real life (slippage, spreads, fills, delays, finding a pair for each stock, ...).

    So, anybody routinely trading Opening Orders (OO) with correlated pairs?
     
    #681     May 18, 2008
  2. yobo

    yobo

    Hey guys, remember what an opening order is and don't make it any more complicated than it has to be.

    With an opening order, you are simply adding liquidity to the marketplace piggy backing the role of the specialist. If futures are opening higher, than you are providing shares for sale slightly above fair value. If futures are pointing lower, you are offering to buy slightly below fair value. And when you provide this service to the marketplace you hope the market will provide a fade or gap for you to capture your profits. And as we know this doesn't always happen.

    Just take your loss or breakeven and get out. THe time to trade pairs intraday begins at 10:00-10:15. Its a totally different trade.
     
    #682     May 18, 2008
  3. 1 fill, short, winner (+0.07)
    Cancelled a lot
     
    #683     May 19, 2008
  4. 1 short / 800 shares / +68.00
     
    #684     May 19, 2008
  5. 1 long position (900 sh EXM 59.43 to 60.06) +$536.79
     
    #685     May 19, 2008


  6. How does this trade fit in an Opening Order strategy? The stock gapped higher and then went higher.
     
    #686     May 19, 2008
  7. Gambitman

    Gambitman

    I was curious about this as well, the nyse opening print was 59.5 not 59.43.
     
    #687     May 19, 2008
  8. Pretty sleepy day.

    3 short 1 long, mostly small positions, -115, 2300 shares
     
    #688     May 19, 2008
  9. I tend to use opening orders to get into my pairs to get good spread prices. In my experience hedging with pairs is a good option and gives you time to deal with the mess that you've gotten yourself into, I have had some pairs that were opening blunders or imbalances that i could not limit close on for weeks before i got them off, however you can always scalp that position and make even more profit from it than if it had gone your way in teh first place on the open.
     
    #689     May 19, 2008
  10. gehko

    gehko

    bleh...

    25 candidates / 3 blocks

    16 losers / 6 winners

    6 auto close / 16 manual

    -4170.00
     
    #690     May 20, 2008