Opening Orders - 2008

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Don Bright, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Sort of "normal" +$400 approx.

    School starts today, looks like a big class (+50), I have brought in Rob Friesen from Canada (PairCO), and Cash Coyne (remote manager) to help a bit...show new stuff, etc.

    Good trading...

    Don
     
    #531     Apr 21, 2008
  2. 6 fills / 5000 shares

    4 long / 2 short / + 1382.00

    ibm was the peach today...
     
    #532     Apr 21, 2008
  3. 6 long, 1 short, +211, 10000 shares.

    Nice win canceled out by an ugly loss. I rather dislike earnings season...
     
    #533     Apr 21, 2008
  4. as62705

    as62705

    Since I'm new, I'll only share my results when they are good! :) Okay, I'll post when I remember too...

    Today, 3/3, +283 (I only go in with 500 shares...like I said, still new).

    Here's my questions to the veterens. Are you all using automated programs to get out quick (it sounds like it). I struggle, because when I look back later in the day, I have so many "shoulda held". Today, it would have been a pretty light day (2/2 +83) but I held BP for a .40 drop on a short. If you have 10+ fills, how do you keep track of where they are all going, or are you relying on automated exits?

    Thanks for the help. I'm thinking about trying a system like going in with 1k shares and having a .06 stop on 100% of my shares if it goes against me, or a .12 on 50% if it goes my way (or instead of XX cents, a %age of the price). Any lessons learned anyone is willing to share?
     
    #534     Apr 21, 2008
  5. DonKee

    DonKee

    That sounds great on paper, but the reality is that you will get killed when the book gets closed and re-opened 10 cents beyond your stop. Close stops can be a complete disaster during the first 10 minutes of trading.
     
    #535     Apr 22, 2008
  6. 4 fills / 3500 shares

    1 long / 4 short / + 1492.00

    dropped my connection right after the bell...i could see fills coming in but not flatten or get quotes...

    wierd...

    had trade desk close me out...would have been better... but i can't complain...
     
    #536     Apr 22, 2008
  7. gehko

    gehko

    3 fills / 2 long / 1 short

    1 win / 2 loss

    -$1440
     
    #537     Apr 22, 2008
  8. I agree, he'll get caught on the shake-outs. I don't use the stop loss function, but those that do tend to use about20 cents and have minimum volume numbers at that price as well.

    Today, in front of class, just 2 manual fills of a couple of pennies each to show the mechanics of the trade.

    Don
     
    #538     Apr 22, 2008
  9. as62705

    as62705

    Okay, got it - so the stop loss isn't a good idea. So if I subject this strategy to traditional money management and look at a risk:reward, are OPG orders more likely to give you a 1:1 risk:reward, but you are counting on many more of your fills being profitable?

    I guess what I've learned in doing these orders is that the toughest part (for me) is managing my losses.

    My results are weak this morning: 2/3, +17. Same thing happened as yesterday - 2 small winners for +85 and stuck with BP not doing much. So, about 10 minutes after the bell I put a stop loss on it and this time it got hit. So -68 on BP. Again, I'm only playing with 500 shares until I learn this better!
     
    #539     Apr 22, 2008
  10. THAT'S the way system issues are supposed to work out! Nice!

    Only one fill on a small position for me today, so a scratch day. Blocked everybody and their goat on news today...
     
    #540     Apr 22, 2008