Opening Only's 2010

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Don Bright, Jan 5, 2010.

  1. Don/Booker,

    when you say your automated your opening trades, how does your automated execution work? I mean how does your system decide when to add liquidity, when to take liquidity and where to add/take the liquidity? I guess your system just doesnt try to buy 2000 shares of DE at the ask via a single destination. I guess that will depend on the width of the bidask spread, volatility of the stock, size, liquidity at various destinations, blah blah.

    I am familiar with the trade signal model, but having trouble building an execution model once a signal is given.

    thanks.
     
    #141     Apr 4, 2010
  2. E,

    Are you talking about opening the position or closing it? I don't understand what your asking.

    -Mario
     
    #142     Apr 5, 2010
  3. Tuesday, April 6th.

    One Fill. + .23
     
    #143     Apr 6, 2010
  4. Anyone familiar with Interactive Brokers order parameters that will ensure that the order gets routed to the specialist at the open with a LOO. For example will SMART routing with NYSE as the exchange do the job. Any other values needed? Thanks!
     
    #144     Apr 8, 2010
  5. Order type: limit
    Time in Force: OPG (Opening)
    SMART routing is fine, no need to specify NYSE.
    A stock listed on the NYSE!!!
    The order will cancel if not filled in the auction.
    You may need to install the OPG feature if it is not in the drop down selection list.
    That's it.
     
    #145     Apr 8, 2010
  6. boba15

    boba15

    I still can't figure out the best time to submit orders. I usually do that 15 seconds before open (9:30 et). What I read on the nyse site is this:

    As I understand if one of my envelope orders increases imbalance, then it will be rejected, right? The opposite order will be accepted. And this is what we want, right, to be on the side, which tries to equalize the existing imbalance? Why does then Don submit his orders 2 minutes before open?
     
    #146     Apr 9, 2010
  7. Thanks!
     
    #147     Apr 9, 2010
  8. The futures is the important thing.
    I usually submit orders about 3-4 minutes before open.
    I see many many orders coming in about 5 minutes till,
    and I want to see if the futures are going to change much,
    which they usually don't...

    For you, I think 2 minutes till is fine.

    marc
     
    #148     Apr 14, 2010
  9. boba15

    boba15

    Seems nobody's trading the openings strategy anymore. Good, less competition lol.
     
    #149     Apr 18, 2010
  10. Carlos11

    Carlos11

    The strategy is dead, that's why. :)

    It has has been for some time now. Imo, there is no longer an 'edge', much to what others suggest. Look at the posts from three or four years ago when the average person was making $300/day using OPGS. Good traders were easily at $500. That was an edge. Now you're lucky to average a cumulative total of .10. That's just not worth the risk for the number of orders and amount of size you're throwing out. Even expirations have lost their edge. I've been red in 10/12 expirations. It's not even worth getting up for anymore.

    GL.
     
    #150     Apr 21, 2010