Open letter to Baron

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by gunslinger, Feb 21, 2008.

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  1. volente_00

    volente_00

    Steve your still an a$$hole, but it's not worth your time arguing with people who are pathological liars and who suffer from multiple personality disorders who try to make up for their little dick with big bets.



    If your relatives really did perish why not shut rubberbird up ?








    Is it because you know he will welsh on it like he did with riskarb ?





    Or is it because the delusional rubberbird probably is full of it considering


    I find it hard to believe that one would have this so called track record considering they have been bearish on the s &P since 1127.

     
    #71     Feb 28, 2008
  2. Are you talking about TudorJones?

    :confused:
     
    #72     Feb 28, 2008
  3. Cutten

    Cutten

    I can't post a link to the bet itself, because someone had those specific posts deleted from the thread, as you well know (since you were reading & replying to my posts). However, to refresh your memory, you claimed that no one on ET had ever done better than your 5/6 trading calls you made on the "blue ribbon" thread. I disagreed and said several people had done better, and with real money not ET "trading calls". I then offered to wager $10k that I had account statements showing a longer winning streak, and urge you to accept this "free money". You did not take up the offer.

    Here's the link to the thread, roughly where it got censored:

    http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90873&perpage=6&highlight=nutten&pagenumber=84

    Bob Rowshan: "I guarantee you NO ONE can go 5 for 6 with results like I had, posting trades BEFORE the fact. If it's no big deal, why don't you try it right here? This challenge is open to anyone to post even a single blue ribbon trade. You have no clue how difficult it really is."

    Me - "Now that's just bragging. Wrong as well, other people on here have done better than 5/6 and have done much better than 10% or lower profits."

    I was referring to real money trades, rather than ET paper trade calls. However, I took up your challenge and made a blue ribbon call, nailing the January stockmarket lows to within an hour or two, posted right here on ET.

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    Now, onto your current "bet"/challenge. After you ignored my bet in January, I was informed that this was not the first time you refused a bet to back up your boasts, and that in fact you had prior alises on ET and had welshed and chickened out on bets with others. One victim of your welshing was riskarb/atticus. Here are the relevant links for everyone to see:

    http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=426157&highlight=james+stock#post426157

    http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=426586&highlight=james+stock#post426586

    One of your aliases was James Stock, correct? If so (and he used the same habit of changing the first letter of someone's first name when replying - a dead giveaway), then that thread clearly shows that you made a $50k real money bet with riskarb, and then welshed. I also see that you made a $10k bet with waggie (now under the alias Landis82) and chickened out on that one too. Another poster brings up a PRIOR additional bet that you chickened out of. Does anyone see a pattern here?

    http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthrea...&perpage=6&highlight=james stock&pagenumber=1

    So, I hope you will forgive me for not taking your bet offer seriously. I know that no matter how much $$$ you offer me, based on your past actions, you will welsh on the bet once it is clear you will lose, just like you did with riskarb/atticus and waggie945/landis82.

    I encourage everyone reading this to peruse those threads that I posted up. This will show you the true nature of Rowshan's character. Quite why an offensive, attention-seeking, bragging, lying coward and welsher like this gets any respect from anyone is beyond me.

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    Here are the relevant excerpts, for those too busy to go through the threads in detail:

    "riskarb wrote on 02-05-04 05:23 PM:
    I'm ready to go... I've got $50k or $500k riding on it, take your pick. The conditions are:

    1) Your *personal* account performance has exceeded mine over the last (x)years.

    2) Your account exceeds $1,000,000US

    3) Verified identity... You(and I) must be able to prove, to the other's satisfaction, that the account(s) are held in our respective names. No BS with accounts held in other names, firm accounts, etc...


    riskarb
    312.xxx.xxxx"

    " 02-06-04 07:38 PM

    Quote from James Stock:

    dude, you bit off more than you can chew here. Tell me where to meet you, and i'll see you at 6pm. BTW, i'm bringing an officer/police friend to make sure this is legit, and a waver so you don't sue me when I make you submit in less than a minute. If you got the balls and won't submit, your ankle will be broken.

    I'm too much of a humane person to really injure you.



    Corner of LaSalle and Eugenie, 6pm. You need a friend, pussy? That's fine, I'll be alone.

    riskarb"

    " 02-07-04 12:18 AM

    OK, now that I feel entirely foolish... Left the corner literally two minutes ago, James Stock was a no-show.

    There was one big dude that walked past me twice, but didn't speak or even look in my direction.

    In any event, you lost this round, peanut. Next time, don't let your mouth write checks...(you know the rest).

    riskarb."

    " 02-07-04 01:49 AM

    Quote from waggie945:

    James "Crackhead" Stock was supposed to meet Riskarb at 6PM CST at the corner of LaSalle and Eugenie.

    Guess what?

    James was a NO SHOW.

    Shocker!



    I may have my own issues, ;-) but I'll swear on a stack of bibles that I did indeed stand on that corner for 25 minutes, from 5:50 to 6:15.

    The guy JS has to be able to look himself in the mirror, that's punishment enough.

    I'll be there tomorrow at 9am for one last attempt to meet.

    I'm off to dinner,
    riskarb."
     
    #73     Feb 28, 2008
  4. Cutten

    Cutten

    Because some people seem to be under the impression that Rowshan is deserving of respect. Guys like Rearden Metal, who normally jump all over people they think are frauds, are for some reason giving Rowshan a free pass, despite the proven, on the record history of him lying, chickening out of challenges, ignoring/welshing on bets against people with proven trading records (e.g. atticus, waggie, myself - probably others too).

    There are only two possibilities. Rowshan is a genuine trader who just happens to be a liar, chicken, welsher, bragger, and all-round asshole who spends his time desperately looking for attention on anonymous internet message boards, and mysteriously backs down every time someone takes up one of his bets for real money. Or, he is a bullsh*tter and has somehow hoodwinked Rearden, Pabst, and others. I have no idea which is true, and both are equally pathetic. However, one wonders why if he is genuine did he back down from the riskarb $50k bet, why did he challenge riskarb to a fight then not show, why did he turn down waggie945's $10k bet, and why did he ignore my initial $10k bet? In addition, it would take just one post for him to actually back up his claims for real - none of us are going to demand an audit, a mere press cutting or account statement is enough to get us to at least accept he is bone fide.

    Regardless of the truth, it's clear that he is someone with a lot of issues, and attempting to "prove him wrong" will just be a waste of time because he'll evade any direct challenge, talk crap for a while, then come back with another alias when finally the shame heaped on this current one becomes too much for him (just like what happened with "James Stock"). I have just posted up incontrovertible proof of his bullsh*tting, lying, welshing ways - anyone who is not convinced after reading that is someone who will *never* be convinced.

    Rowshan has been banned before under a previous alias, due to his offensive and ridiculous behaviour. Surely it is time for him to be banned again.
     
    #74     Feb 28, 2008
  5. Thanks for putting the record straight Cutten

    Good luck to you in the markets, and in life.
     
    #75     Feb 29, 2008
  6. Yes, the record has been set straight. We now know for sure:

    1) steve46 lied about losing siblings in 9/11

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...720&highlight=family+members+9/11#post1192720

    2) nutten is soo insanely jealous of my accomplishments he's willing to waste hours and hours posting pure garbage.

    nutten, you calling Rearden a liar for his above post?
     
    #76     Feb 29, 2008
  7. What "we" know now asshole is that YOU have been banned at least once before...

    What "we" know asshole is that YOU are a fraud, as is Rearden....both of you are fucking bullshit artists....

    and "we" know this thanks to some of the folks here who had the decency to fill us all in on your crap....

    Time for another alias for YOU bullshit artist. Take your silly ass and your bullshit somewhere else.

    and as far as I am concerned take that asshole Rearden with you...

    ET can do without you two fucking losers...

    After this I doubt anyone is going to be fooled again...

    I would say you two are the fucking laughing stock of ET

    and what I love about this thread, is that from now on, I can link to it anytime I want....

    Oh and by the way, both of you jerkoffs are on Ignore....

    I suggest everyone else do the same...
     
    #77     Feb 29, 2008
  8. Well, look at it this way: Let's say that after years of friendship, disappointing information about one of your friends is brought to your attention. Do you immediately betray that friend by jumping on their case in an embarrassingly public manner?
    Do you go in the exact opposite direction by 'pulling a marketsurfer'; coming to your friend's defense at any cost, with one insincere statement after another?

    ...or do you do choose the most logical path like I do, and find some sort of middle ground?
    Yeah, I thought so...
     
    #78     Mar 2, 2008
  9. Nutten has been trolling and stalking me for many years now. As far back as 2004-2005, he and waggie were a tag team, incessantly stalking me, crying that I was "begging for attention". With all this so-called attention I was begging for, nutten still has no clue who I am. So what attention could i have been seeking? The fact that he regurgitates the same crap waggie used to relentlessly throw at me in his rambling posts on this thread, it's obvious he has been unable to shake his jealousy of me. At least waggie has moved on.

    I posted the above quote b/c I consider it offensive to the 2 friends I do have on this board, Pabst and Rearden Metal. To say that these 2 upstanding citizens have been "hoodwinked" by me is insulting to them, and both deserve an apology based on the contributions they have made to this board.
     
    #79     Mar 2, 2008
  10. I would hardly consider ReardenMetal to be mentally challenged and incapable of making his own decisions.

    He doesn't even remotely strike me as the type to be hoodwinked easily.
     
    #80     Mar 2, 2008
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