Open Interest Pinning and Butterflies

Discussion in 'Options' started by caroy, Jan 3, 2021.

  1. qlai

    qlai

    I might have missed it, but wasn’t he favoring ratio spreads where he is long 1 ITM and short 3 OTM?
     
    #61     Jan 10, 2021
  2. caroy

    caroy

    Yes good point. He writes much about the 1:3 ration spread as a strategy for the last couple of days of expiration.
     
    #62     Jan 10, 2021
  3. taowave

    taowave

    Thats my bread and butter,but it's really margin arbitrage.Cant get very big even with PM. You have to be long wings to keep the margin police off your nutsack..

     
    #63     Jan 10, 2021
  4. qlai

    qlai

    He is suggesting to have ratio where initial deltas are close to neutral (ex +80x1;-20x4). Same for you?
     
    #64     Jan 10, 2021
  5. taowave

    taowave

    First met me say I do this in stocks like MSFT and AAPL.
    I will do it in TSLSA,but I proceed with extreme caution..

    I do not trade the ITM/ATM options. My long Delta is probably in the 30 range,maybe less..There is always one option that gets bid up,and that's what I nail.If the stock rallies and sticky Delta holds,I SHOULD do very well..

    The major constraint is margin.You can't get big without capping your exposure with the cheapos..



     
    #65     Jan 10, 2021
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  6. qlai

    qlai

    Does this mean you are always on lookout for cheap far OTM options in your preferred stocks?
     
    #66     Jan 10, 2021
  7. caroy

    caroy

    If you're doing the 1:3 ratio. How far out are you buying the wing to reduce the margin? Using a profit target or a delta target?
     
    #67     Jan 10, 2021
  8. caroy

    caroy

    Off the phone with TastyWorks. They exited even though I clicked monitoring as the account could not have handled assignment. Shouldn't be a long term issue as I will be adding more funds and am using this account to test some ideas. Still frustrating. No free mug forgot to ask. Cheers.
     
    #68     Jan 11, 2021
  9. taowave

    taowave

    Yes...and it is against my "religion"...Had (have:) a terrible habit of sometimes being penny wise and dollar foolish.. A recent example..was in the TSLA 1/22 1120-1260 call spread for .20 credit..1260's got down to .20...I stared at them,thought about buying at least half back(spending the credit),but cheaped out.The went to over 5 bucks.Not too mention,if TSLA ever really rips,I will face a very large margin call...

     
    #69     Jan 12, 2021
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  10. taowave

    taowave

    If I like the spread and want to get big,I buy the ..01/.02 options to cap margin...However,if I can buy a .04 option 4 strikes lower.Ill buy them on a ratio..Im talking 3 days and in for DTE..

    If I am trading TSLA,where Margin is stressed on +- 50% stock move,I have started to buy wings at much higher prices..Ive shifted my approach by doing ratios "cloder" to the money with much higher theoretical edge based off of price distributions/vol


     
    #70     Jan 12, 2021
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