Open Border Democrats 2020

Discussion in 'Politics' started by MoneyMatthew, Dec 19, 2019.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    So you're just assuming they don't check the box and would risk getting put in prison? I could make the same assumption about citizens, assuming costs nothing.

    And to play devil's advocate, why would they want to fight for a country that treats them as criminals and with less rights than afforded to those here? You want assimilation, start welcoming people into the fold, rather than locking their infants with no due process.

    Also, nice spin from the original argument.
     
    #21     Dec 19, 2019
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    The next paycheck you get? Look at your paystub. There's some lines there on FICA and FCA and SSI and all that. Those are the taxes you pay to the federal government for your hard work.

    What does it equal?

    Whatever it equals, that money is going right down into the belly of someone who just crossed the border and demands free food. YOUR hard-earned-dollars are feeding people here who pay no taxes. Do you understand this?

    It is the same as you taking in a boarder. Or a tenant who refuses to pay rent while consuming your resources.

    Try it sometime! Take in someone, into your home, and pay for their food, energy, health care, etc etc etc. Be a good Samaritan, and see how long you can tolerate a free-loader.
     
    #22     Dec 19, 2019
  3. That money goes to a lot of things Congress approves
     
    #23     Dec 19, 2019
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    So we're back to border crosser come to milk the system while also somehow "stealing" American jobs argument?

    Back in the real world, illegals hardly qualify for any non-private benefits, let alone federal & often times pay for social security taxes they can never recoup (through government issued ITINs).

    And my money's going to overbloated, free-loading, national defense queens, I'd rather it go to illegals if we're talking welfare.

    Also, nice spin from the original argument.
     
    #24     Dec 19, 2019
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    Good grief man, you do know what Social Security taxes are for, yes? What do you mean that ITINs can never recoup taxes they paid into FICA and whatever? It's not a system they pay into for a couple years and then withdraw from like a bank.
     
    #25     Dec 19, 2019
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Because ITIN holders aren't eligible to withdraw from Social security (unless naturalized). Do you know what Social Security taxes are for? How do you like illegals subsidizing seniors?

    https://www.americanimmigrationcoun...out-individual-tax-identification-number-itin
     
    #26     Dec 19, 2019
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    Do you pay taxes in the USA, here4money? Are you paying into the USA system? Might as well get to the brass tax here, because you are becoming very annoying to us.
     
    #27     Dec 19, 2019
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    I hope you know I am setting up for failure...Because you have a lot of validation to follow up on...

    Back in the real world, illegals hardly qualify for any non-private benefits, let alone federal & often times pay for social security taxes they can never recoup (through government issued ITINs).

    Prove it.
     
    #28     Dec 19, 2019
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Who is this us? Those w/wrong preconceptions who are questioned to back up their assumptions? And yes, I pay federal, state, municipal, school district, and property taxes in the US.

    Prove what? The federal requirement to receive benefits? The number of ITIN or fake SSN tax payers?
     
    #29     Dec 19, 2019
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    Well, does it not piss you the hell off that you are paying for freeloaders in our system, who leech and do not pay back? I mean, fair work begets fair wages! Sure! I am all for that! But sucking away money from the masses on the backs of the masses = theft in my head.
     
    #30     Dec 19, 2019