opec cuts?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by cashclay, Jan 31, 2016.

  1. gas tax is paid per gallon, not a percentage of price
     
    #11     Feb 1, 2016
  2. these were rumors, one can't expect truth from russian officials
     
    #12     Feb 1, 2016
  3. cashclay

    cashclay

    See oil is down in premarket. glad to see everyone is still smart lol. iran just announced 1.5 mil/b and you can expect that due to so many years of being out of the market
     
    #13     Feb 1, 2016
  4. Chubbly

    Chubbly

    Not entirely true. India and China never stopped buying oil from Iran. The embargo was only the US and Europe, a big customer no doubt which is why the Saudi's don't want to give up that market share they keep talking about. The Saudis knew this deal was coming and purposely crashed prices, they got to hit several birds with one stone (Iran, Russia, US shale, North Sea)

    Anyone else who didn't want to recognize the embargo was still free to buy Iran oil.

    Think about all the oil leaking out of Iraq/Syria due to ISIS trading it in a war zone, if they can manage to get it out and get paid for it then you would be naive to think Iran wasn't selling a single drop.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iran
     
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    #14     Feb 1, 2016
  5. There is a huge oversupply these days, I don't think that this is possible these days, especially after Iran's deal. They're hungry of money and they definitely won't cut
     
    #15     Feb 1, 2016
  6. Chubbly

    Chubbly

    Just look at what oil did in 2008. It went up to 143 then down to the 30 range in just a few months.

    These type of moves happen in commodities.
    The extra capacity being pumped is only 2% a day extra that is causing this price drop.
     
    #16     Feb 1, 2016
  7. spacewiz

    spacewiz

    Cost of production for Saudi Arabia is under $15, Russia : $30-40. Cheapest US shale oil : $40 (and average probably about $55-60), You can see who has the most to lose if they don't cut.
     
    #17     Feb 2, 2016
  8. cashclay

    cashclay

    but i think you guys are forgetting the dynamics between a country and company and how it operates. Theres a lot more factors to consider when running a country based on oil rev like most opec countries are.
     
    #18     Feb 2, 2016
  9. cashclay

    cashclay

    anyone know when the meeting is suppose ot be held? I had heard June there were gonna be talks
     
    #19     Feb 2, 2016
  10. So today's price signal that there won't be a cut, at least for some time. Russians lied about meeting.
     
    #20     Feb 2, 2016