One of the reasons I like Position Trading

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Buy1Sell2, Apr 18, 2006.

What kind opf trader are you?

  1. I am a position trader

    132 vote(s)
    27.7%
  2. I am a swing trader(overnight)

    137 vote(s)
    28.8%
  3. I am a day trader

    207 vote(s)
    43.5%
  1. vetten

    vetten

    hi B1S2
    You cant be earning that much on your cash/mutual funds for 80% of your investments.
    If you are doing so well with your trading account which average 50-80%, why would you ever want to be in cash or mutual funds for 80% of your total investments? It sure wont be much more time consuming to put a larger trade on or is a bigger postition worrying you?
    Is your trading account too risky to be there 100%?

    Could you tell me what your average leverage is on your trading account?

    thanks
    :)
     
    #261     May 8, 2007
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Well, the reason that I keep money in mutuals, is to be diversified. If I had it all in the trading account, even I might be tempted to use more margin than I need to. The leverage that I use on the trading account is 5 to1. This equates then to 1 to 1 over the whole portfolio. If I am 5 to 1 on ES or NQ of course, then I need to watch how much I have in mutuals so that I am really not overleveraged since this would be a duplicate.
     
    #262     May 11, 2007
  3. vetten

    vetten

    hi B1S2

    thank you for your frank reply.

    at the moment I am not a day trader, but trading short/medium term.

    I would like to invest part of my portfolio in longer time frames of at least 1 year as this is more tax effective.
    Here in Oz if I hold over 1 year, half of those profits will be added to my income.
    Less than 1 year, full profits added to income.

    I understand that your trading positions play out generally over more than 1 year. Do you enter when the trading vehicle is at
    year high or do you have a shorter time frame?

    thanks for your info:cool:
     
    #263     May 11, 2007
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    My trade times are weeks or months, not so much years.
     
    #264     May 11, 2007
  5. 100% in agreement. IMO, the only argument for scaling is to reduce market-impact.
     
    #265     May 11, 2007
  6. vetten

    vetten

    oh ok B1S2

    you`re not much help:)

    thanks
     
    #266     May 11, 2007
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Yes, I agree. You will generally see scaling done by folks who have too large a position on to leave their screen(ie too large for their account).
     
    #267     May 12, 2007
  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    JJ, Osorico and Steve46,

    My belief about position/swing versus daytrader is geared towards the fact that newbies and uninitiated traders need to be doing longer term trading first and then once they have had a lot of success, they may wish to turn to daytrading. My argument is not that you can't make money daytrading, rather it is that most people cannot, so why go there first? :)
     
    #268     May 13, 2007
  9. I was surprised to see how many "successful" traders tells newbs to learn how to day trade 1st. Their argument is not having the overnight exposure..but I find that to hardly be a problem.
     
    #269     May 13, 2007
  10. All three, the weighting depends on market conditions.

    The balance changes constantly but to be honest I've made most of my money over the years through position trading.

    Over the last 14 months I've been unwinding very long positions to reduce my exposure.

    To date: buy and hold 3%
    position 39%
    swing 22%
    day 7%
    cash 29%

    I rarely use leverage. Cash is always around 30% for those once in a lifetime opportunities that surface once or twice a year.:D
     
    #270     May 13, 2007