Once in a Lifetime - American Consumers' Dealers No Longer Dealing Dope (Credit)?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by ByLoSellHi, Aug 15, 2008.

  1. gnome

    gnome

     
    #21     Aug 17, 2008
  2. FRE and FNM shareholders lost 90% of their capital. Is Bernanke giving shareholders their money back? I didn't think so.

    Regarding commodities, I have no idea if the bull market is over. I'd think a lot depends on how badly India, China and other emerging markets will suffer from tighter global credit. My point was that the institutional money that was poured into commodity linked indexes and swaps is now reeling as their inflation fears are turning into deflation horrors. Many investors looking for 'diversification from crashing equities' and 'a Bernanke-hedge' against 'Fed induced rampant global inflation' got pummeled.
     
    #22     Aug 17, 2008
  3. Gnome, I do not understand how the moneys of people who saved is confiscated, and they have no buying power. I am not debating you. I want to understand how you think this will happen. Do you mean becasue the USDollar is worth less because of bad money mistakes of some, so people who saved actually have less worth than they thought they had?
    If so, if this is what you are saying, then buying a depreciated asset would balance this...yes?
     
    #23     Aug 17, 2008
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    #24     Aug 17, 2008
  5. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    FRE and FNM should be both bankrupt and the government is specifically bailing out the shareholders of these two idiotic "corporations." So although you have a point, the shares should be at $0 - so I have my point.

    And whoever thinks deflation is a problem is just not in touch with the reality that I am experiencing. We can talk about deflation when food prices actually go down or when healthcare costs diminish. Housing is deflating because it was a bubble, but in general I do not see the case for deflation when the Fed continues to keep interest rates artificially low.
     
    #25     Aug 17, 2008
  6. yes it does show some balance of power

    but I assume US is still stronger than Russia military wise

    I do think Russia is trying to alter america's economy, and they have a good chance of succeeding, mainly because american's aren't as smart as they think they are, and aren't half as smart as Russians
     
    #26     Aug 17, 2008
  7. "Empty words." That's how Moscow glibly dismissed NATO's criticism yesterday of Russia's continued occupation of Georgia.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121918982921755027.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    though not glibly

    for 5 years the west couldn't stop a little bitch like iran, europe just talks and talks, actually talks too much

    why would you expect a different response from russia

    not just russia, everyone can see that the west's warnings are just BS talk, if a little fuck like iran can play with europe like that, I wonder what russia can do to those gay weasels?!

    ps - stupid people suck, they are easily replaceable
     
    #27     Aug 20, 2008