Omicron: Natural immunity idea ‘not really panning out'

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jan 8, 2022.

  1. ipatent

    ipatent

    No, what I meant is that the logarithmic growth in Omicron cases has occurred mostly in the latter part of the six week timeline. Wait until January 30 and check the charts and the breakthrough numbers again. They will probably go up quite a bit.
     
    #81     Jan 10, 2022
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  2. destriero

    destriero


    One more time... it's a selection bias. You can't have survived Omicron if you died from Delta. This isn't hard.
     
    #82     Jan 10, 2022
  3. Baron

    Baron Administrator

    Vaccines don't work on dead people. Got it.
     
    #83     Jan 10, 2022
  4. destriero

    destriero

    You survive first wave or uninfected (no Ab) -> survive Delta (Ab) or uninfected (no Ab) -> you're very likely to 1) become infected with Omicron (R0 > 8) and 2) survive Omicron as it's far less lethal and Ab from prior infections are somewhat durable.
     
    #84     Jan 10, 2022
  5. destriero

    destriero


    You're thick. You can't get the mild shit if you died of the scary shit. That's your selection bias. Making the case for surviving Omicron is an IQ test.
     
    #85     Jan 10, 2022
  6. Baron

    Baron Administrator

    Then why are people dying from Omicron then.
     
    #86     Jan 10, 2022
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    no prior infection w/COVID would be my off the hip guess.
     
    #87     Jan 10, 2022
  8. Baron

    Baron Administrator

    They should have been vaccinated then. I mean, they only had two friggin' years to get it done.
     
    #88     Jan 10, 2022
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    well, the vax is like a yr old and yeah, no one's arguing those dropping dead from omicron are the anti-vaxxers.
     
    #89     Jan 10, 2022
  10. destriero

    destriero


    Because Omicron's R0 is possibly >10 for Omicron vs. 3 for Delta. 3X more infected. Law of large numbers... more unwashed/unvaxxed infected = more deaths, especially with breakthrough PRIOR cases (not breakthrough vaxxed). And yes, some of the elderly vaxxed are dying from Omicron but it's less than three percent. I posted the link above.

    And well, this:

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    #90     Jan 10, 2022