OMG I can't believe this fallacy still exists in trading!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by wxytrader, Oct 14, 2023.

  1. It's hard to keep up with all the correcting I'm doing...you are describing the traders fallacy. The stock will go from $5 to $10 just as easily as it went from $10 to $5...and so will your portfolio recover just as easily. There is no math involved here only price action
     
    #211     Oct 17, 2023
  2. destriero

    destriero

    one tick at a time? Wut?
     
    #212     Oct 17, 2023
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  3. Gapping is not a characteristic of price action ..it's a characteristic of the market being closed and manipulated. The only reason to close markets is to f retail and make their stop losses useless...and make sure all the big moves happen before retail can react. It's all rigged markets should be 24/7...the current equity market options and all is completely antiquated
     
    #213     Oct 17, 2023
  4. tsfx

    tsfx

    Become a liquidity provider and offer what you think is fair then. In that way, markets would not be rigged anymore since there's always you sitting on bids/asks offering liquidity at fair prices...
     
    #214     Oct 17, 2023
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  5. tsfx

    tsfx

    Isn't it facinating? Markets are sooo efficient in pricing that most traders never even ask the question of where does bids and asks and liquidity even come from. Everything is taken for granted. As if the almighty himself is offering those.
     
    #215     Oct 17, 2023
  6. taowave

    taowave

    Yes,I see there is no math "here"..

    50% =100%

     
    #216     Oct 17, 2023
  7. the math is the dubious part. it's a fallacy. I mean it is being interpreted as an indication of probability which is a fallacy.
     
    #217     Oct 17, 2023
  8. The market should be more balanced like if there was a cap at 1% of the float. Currently institutions own 58% of AAPL according to google. If an institution owns enough shares that managing those shares can affect the price of the stock in a measurable way then that is manipulation and should not be permitted.

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    #218     Oct 17, 2023
  9. I didn't say EASILY I said JUST AS EASILY
     
    #219     Oct 17, 2023
  10. ph1l

    ph1l

    To test this concept, I used data from this post (26 long ETFs for up to 23 years of daily data adjusted for dividends and splits with swing changes base on the highs and lows of at least the previous 8 trading days).

    I found 6440 upswings with
    mean time 13.3113354037267 trading days
    median time 10 trading days
    mean dollar change per share per trading day change 0.481707399701033
    median dollar change per share per trading day change 0.238060333333333

    And 6430 downswings with
    mean time 9.53965785381027 trading days
    median time 7 trading days
    mean dollar change per share per trading day change 0.561237425952638
    median dollar change per share per trading day change 0.27939325

    The downswings happened faster with more movement per bar than the upswings.
    So, this evidence demonstrates it's easier for prices to go down than up.
     
    #220     Oct 17, 2023
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