Oil beginning to threaten SIFs

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by nitro, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. Daal

    Daal

    what amazes me is their amount of level 3 assets(200%+) as a percentage of equity and the fact the worldwide and US assets have all got decimated by at least 10%, and thats the liquid stuff..
    if they were taking writedowns for real their leverage ratio would be on the moon
     
    #581     Sep 17, 2008
  2. man

    man

    still blaming the short sellers is really ... desperate in
    my eyes. the losses AIG reported did not come from
    short sellers ... neither did those of any other bank.

    but i certainly do understand the desperation. if you
    fell you are earning, while competitors are defaulting
    and you STILL get hammered like never before ...

    that would be the funniest solution: everything cleaned
    out. everything as it was before, just short selling is
    gone for good.
     
    #582     Sep 17, 2008
  3. nitro

    nitro

    It is all about insane leverage. The math is really simple. For example, GS is leveraged 25:1. If the value of their portfolio changes adversely by more than 4%, say goodbye.

    Now people realize just how good Long Term Capital must have been to be able to withstand 30:1++++ leverage for as long as they did.

    nitro
     
    #583     Sep 17, 2008
  4. nitro

    nitro

    Hearing MS angry at Citadel. Citadel poaching.

    nitro
     
    #584     Sep 18, 2008
  5. nitro

    nitro

    My partners made it through this near debacle. At one point we were joking that we send our resumes to Ice Road Truckers, just in case.

    Some of us I am afraid did not make it today.

    nitro
     
    #585     Sep 19, 2008
  6. nitro

    nitro

    I am hearing tens of millions lost and gained on opening print in indicies.

    Oh man.

    :( :( nitro :( :(
     
    #586     Sep 19, 2008
  7. nitro

    nitro

    Let's take an inventory:

    YG + $39.40
    QM + $6.00
    VIX - 0.80
    SPX -24.42
    ESZ8 -13.75

    Uh, anyone notice bizarre relations? :confused:

    This market is causing massive dislocations. The rubber band is being stretched to levels I have never seen. When it snaps back, it is going to be violent.

    nitro
     
    #587     Sep 22, 2008
  8. nitro

    nitro

    Markets are wild, but they appear to be settling in a range. There is little or no leadership in cash equities, and I suspect that there is going to be serious apathy in equity markets when the realities of earnings begin to flow in.

    Look, the worry here is that markets swoon and we head to levels well below 1000 SPX. I believe that if LEH were not allowed to implode, that we would have still sold off, but not in a panic. Goldman Sachs seeing it's life flash before it's eyes spooked lots of people. I don't see why that should be. Anyone that is levered 25:1 is at risk in a ten standard deviation event.

    I still believe people should be making a wish list of equities they want to invest in. It may take months for markets to stabilize, but when they do you want to have a list.

    nitro
     
    #588     Sep 23, 2008
  9. nitro

    nitro

    Continued disconnect between cash and futures markets:

    INDU + 40
    YMZ8 -5
    SPX + 2.74
    ESZ8 -3.00

    Etc....You have to take into consideration the premium, but somewhere this went bad.


    nitro
     
    #589     Sep 23, 2008
  10. HooLee

    HooLee

    "If some of his troops advance and some retreat, he is seeking to lure you forward..." - Sunzi

     
    #590     Sep 23, 2008