Oh No, NOT Another S&P EMini journal...

Discussion in 'Journals' started by goodday, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. goodday

    goodday

    Hello KRSNA,
    Thank you for the note.
    How interesting....
    On the issue of commissions, I am currently paying 3.50 round turn (all expenses included). So my net return on a single tick of profit is $9. So my PF, as you put it, is above 2.0. I am looking at leasing a seat at CME (rather than go through a broker, which I currently do) given my volume and thereby reducing my costs and increase my PF to above 2.38.
    But to get to above 3.0 PF, I need to trade better, improve my system (however intuitive it is) more, and be disciplined about my entry and exit points. I have a long way to go on all these counts. Shaving commissions alone is not going to do it.
    You said: if you have a good PF and CR you have arrived. I have a different take on having "arrived". I don't know that I will ever arrive.... because the verb "arrive" assumes the existence of a destination point set in concrete. To me, learning to trade is a never ending process, without any specific destination. I am sure we have all heard of stories where traders have accumulated millions in their accounts only to find them selves completely wiped out on a fine morning (or evening). I am very aware that I could be some one's lunch at any given moment.
    By the way what does this mean? "Om Tat Sat"
     
    #71     Jul 6, 2006
  2. goodday

    goodday

    KRSNA: You said: Based on figures posted here, you have a profit factor roughly of 4.18 on gross profits.
    Could you please let me know how you computed this? I am curious, and, am definitely "math challenged".

    Also, you said: Next you need to know your compound ratio. what is a compound ratio and how will it help me? And, How do I compute this?

    Sorry about my ignorance. And, thanks for your help.
     
    #72     Jul 6, 2006
  3. if this is not the usual smoke stuff, you are very astonishing........if it is, it is fun anyway.......
     
    #73     Jul 6, 2006
  4. goodday

    goodday

    Pre-8.30 AM (EST) trades:

    Long 119 contracts.
    Closed for profit of $2250.

    Flat before the 8.30 AM jobs report.
     
    #74     Jul 7, 2006
  5. volente_00

    volente_00



    You kicking yourself yet ?
     
    #75     Jul 7, 2006
  6. goodday

    goodday

    No, just following my rules....
     
    #76     Jul 7, 2006
  7. EXCELLENT!
     
    #77     Jul 7, 2006
  8. goodday

    goodday

    Long 95 contracts after the jobs report
    closed for LOSS of $ 10,000.00


    DONE FOR THE DAY.
     
    #78     Jul 7, 2006
  9. goodday

    goodday

    correction
    not closed for the loss but stopped out for the loss.
     
    #79     Jul 7, 2006
  10. KRSNA

    KRSNA

    Goodday,
    By arrived I mean a place where you will not be someone's lunch because your money management is so controlled it is impossible to happen. I met an old trader who told me using his money management rules it was impossible for him to ever get wiped out.

    The key he said was in controlling his largest losing trade. He set a rule for the largest loser and he never broke that rule. He was never wiped out. I did not really believe him and harboured a fear that this game was a knife's edge where a wipe out could easily happen.

    Not any more. I too know it is impossible to be wiped out as I follow his rule as well. am now only playing with a small percentage of my capital and I ALWAYS reduce size after a loss and INCREASE size after a win. NEVER EVER the other way around. My biggest loss never gets bigger. In 2000 trades it never got bigger.

    Increase size after a loss or average a loss or add to a loss and wipe out is an absolute definite mathematical certainty. No matter how many times you get away with it. A total wipe out is one day coming once you add to losers.
     
    #80     Jul 7, 2006