Offsetting price risk

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by lasner, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. heech

    heech

    Right. What he's saying is he wants the risk free rate, but he wishes it was more than (next to) nothing.

    To the OP: you can't do it. If it was possible to get a higher yield from the 30 yr old bond without rate/price risk, then everyone would do it. No one likes being paid 0.1% or whatever.... The fact notes are still trading at that level tells you something.
     
    #11     Feb 24, 2011
  2. sjfan

    sjfan

    The long bond future is NOT just a derivative of the 30y bond (which, by the way, the current 30y will eventually become the old 30 and another newly issued bond will become the 30y bond). The long bond future has a deliverable basket and contains a delivery option for the seller. The long bond future (US1, not WN)'s current cheapest-to-deliver is really the T 6.75 8/26 while the current 30y bond is the T 4.25 2/41.

    I have no idea what you by 'trading against' it.

     
    #12     Feb 24, 2011
  3. lasner

    lasner

    Trading against it to offset risk
     
    #13     Feb 28, 2011
  4. sjfan

    sjfan

    Okay, so as I and others have said above - it wont' work as well as you might think it does because of the delievery optionality in the futures.

     
    #14     Feb 28, 2011