What a ruse McCains 5000 dollar health care credit is. His base is just daft enough to think they're going to get 5000 dollars for nothing and add it to their checking account. When employers drop them from the roles and they're twisting in the wind they're going to regret it. Older people stand a better chance of getting dropped since their conditions will be flagged by providers. McCains campaign has 7 lobbyists working for it. Wonder where that plank came from? Also, did he lie about average plans costing 5800 dollars and know it? It's more like 12,000 dollars. And, poor Joe Sixpack the plumber who'll earn 250,000 dollars a year. Another ruse.
Yeah McCain put on some truly scary and disturbing facial expressions I have to admit. You know we've tried sane and recently even stupid presidents, maybe a president with a little crazy in him would be a good change!..lol. Hey I just said I think McCain won THIS debate, but overall Obama seems to be way ahead overall. I agree that McCains last and only hope at this point is that there will be enough people that "aren't ready for a black house" that they'll offset the african american votes that Obama is gonna get. Oh well I'll be on vacation with no access to TV the week of the election so it'll be a nice surprise when I get back to the states.
If someone is smart - they know how to show it, however not all intelligent people know how to show their potential. Also, having potential is not the same as having content or the knowledge. Being smart is a combination of various things - and is also defined by a situation. Obama certainly comes across much better than McCain, and McCain himself did a disservice to his campaign by repeatedly saying "Obama is eloquent." That is flatly admitting that Obama is getting his points across better...
I thought Obama did very well as usual. One question he didn't quite answer to my satisfaction. He said his only connection with ACORN was when he represented them. What about the 800k contribution to an organization connected with them? His campaign initially said it was for lighting and sets or something like that, later they revised it to "get out the vote" drives. Does that include rounding up the homeless, etc to vote? I'm an Obama supporter, but just wondering.. -v
"I'm proud of the people who come to our rallies" I saw those people ... and they're not people --- they're a mob.
Gringo, I notice this too. I view this differently than you. I saw McCain repeating "Obama is eloquent" as McCain sarcasm, and McCain attempt to convince the listeners of the debate to think Obama is smooth talker...so beware of the smooth talk.
Liberals far overweight race as a factor in decision making. I'm the single most provocative guy about race on this board-I call Obama a nig everyday-yet I've voted for several blacks and not all of them were named Alan Keyes. I was a lib once so I've even voted for a former Black Panther. (in a huge irony he's the only guy to ever beat Barrack Obama-in a different campaign)I'll put it to you this way. If every Republican candidate was black and every Democrat white I'd never vote for a white again. Mistaking bias for prejudice is a logic loser. The extrapolation is real tenuous. Now beyond the surface there's clearly nuanced perceptions. Would some of Obama's obvious ethical issues bother me if he was white? I'm not sure. I suspect though it's more idealogical than racial. Alan Keyes was a man of complexities and I was devoted to him. Not because of his race lol but because of his stand on issues. It's the same with black voters. Run a conservative black against a liberal white and the white guy gets 85% of the black vote. Politicians, athletes, artists are all iconic. Their talent rules the hearts and minds of voters/fans/consumers above race or even gender. The American street? A different story....
Thats true and its a very very common mistake. Stereotypes aren't necessarily deserved, but the fact is they are earned. Bias is leaning one way on a factually basis, prejudice is leaning one way for no real reason at all.
I know, it's a pity for some of us here. I wonder why you couldn't bring yourself to type the last 3 letters. It's obviously worse than fucking cunt, but I've seen you use that one. I believe you may have used that one on me, or I on you, or both : ) More idealogical than racial for you? I know you hate to hear this but there are those of us who, having heard your views on black people, tend to think that you pre-judge blacks. We believe this because you have said in the past that, for example, 45% of black people are assholes or that blacks are genetically predisposed to criminal behaviour (I know your friend Dan believed in this, I think I recall you agreeing with him but you can correct me if I'm wrong). You often cite your support of Keyes as proof that it's not about race but about ideas. I guess I would have to consider the possibility. With regard to this second para. more generally, I would just say that I think you're giving the average voter waaaay to much credit. The decisions made on election day are going to be a lot more visceral than this, and I believe that on the day, there are going to be a lot of people who vote race.