OEX weekly options

Discussion in 'Options' started by kalikahuna, Jul 1, 2006.

  1. Stanford

    I was losing up to -$1500 today for a while. I see now before the close I´m only negative -$300
    As TJ says, tomorrow will tell on the breakout move. I don´t need much to make a profit if it will go my way.
     
    #361     Oct 7, 2010
  2. Went flat moc today. better to buy a straddle or small debit strangle but not up for it. New fly going on Monday, good trading.
     
    #362     Oct 8, 2010
  3. Elite Think

    Whats a moc?

    Yeah! I insured my puts with a debit spread in Calls. Hopefully I can make something.

    Trend is still up, until we get a big correction swing one day.

    I´m going to have to look at LONG straddles and strangles and see how they work.
     
    #363     Oct 8, 2010
  4. zdreg

    zdreg

    do a google search.
     
    #364     Oct 8, 2010
  5. zdreg
    when do you use those market on close orders? thanks Michael
     
    #365     Oct 8, 2010
  6. Stanford

    Market on close are usually day trading orders.

    This trend is still going up. It doesnt increase much, too slow for making money other than credit spreads. I estimate if it going to keep going it will do so for another 24 OEX points. A second leg, or wave so to speak.

    Weekly credit spreads under the market then would be the play I figure in PUTS? Straight CALLS are useless in such a slow market. Ive got a verical CALL spread on, we will see how that works out, as I don´t know.

    But for my TOS account I´m thinking a Credit spread early in the week at maximum credit. Which reminds me I need to check on those credit spreads I did on scratch paper and see what happened. Back to the option chain.
     
    #366     Oct 8, 2010
  7. TJ

    Or Stanford

    I´´m trying to figure out this credit spread deal here. Would one of you or anybody else double check this for me?

    The credit spead was in PUTS, a bull credit PUT spread. This was Larry Bergs way of trading directionally using credit spreads. I guess I would have four sets of commissions to deduct. I forget what that is but can look it up.

    sold 5 OCT 525 at $6.00
    bought 5 OCT 520 at $4.20 for a net credit of (+ $1.80 )

    Close the spread doing

    buy 5 OCT 525 at $5.25
    sold 5 Oct 520 at $2.45 for a ( $2.80) is what I figure.

    Now do I add the two credits together? Or do I subtract them?

    If I add them together I made $4.60 x 500 equals $2300 before commissions. If that is true, that is a nice trade, but reliant on direction. ( something not right here?)

    Let me see if I can figure it a different way, as I´m confused.

    Sell at $6 + and buy back at $5.25 gives me a + .75 cents
    buy at $2.80 and take away the sell of + $2.45 leaves - .35 cents

    So +.75 - .35 would leave a profit of +.40 cents

    500 x .40 cents would be a $200 profit less commissions for four trades, or $52 I believe? Which would make a net profit of $200 - $52 equals $148

    THIS SECOND SOLUTION SEEMS THE MOST LIKELY. SO WHERE THE HECK DID I GO WRONG ON THE FIRST ONE?

    i´VE GOT STARS IN MY EYES HERE from trying to figure it out. I now get a .35 cents profit? Not .40 cents? On a third try to figure it out.

    HELP!
     
    #367     Oct 8, 2010
  8. Falconview, here is how it works. You had a credit of 1.80 on opening, then it cost you 2.80 to close it (debit), so you lost 1.00 on that trade. Don't do that one too often!
    Michael
     
    #368     Oct 8, 2010

  9. Either way you think of it would be fine, but you seem to have two different prices for the same thing:

    "buy at $2.80 and take away the sell of + $2.45 leaves - .35 cents"

    If the $2.80 a $2.80 or a $4.80 (as stated earlier)? The two numbers seem to be off by $2.

    It is the only post I read today in this forum so far. I do not seem to have time to stay long around here. So I wish you all well.
     
    #369     Oct 8, 2010
  10. MOC= Market On Close? (type of order?).
     
    #370     Oct 8, 2010