OCTOBER: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks

Discussion in 'Trading' started by shortie, Sep 29, 2009.

For Long Investors October 2009 Will Return

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    15.1%
  2. +5%

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  3. +3%

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  4. -3%

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  5. -5%

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  6. -8%

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  7. Somebody's gonna lose and it won't be me :)

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  1. Another lie.

    Please post a screen-shot of your trading log from today.

    Thank you.
     
    #21     Oct 5, 2009
  2. Call me what you want! I'm gaiiiiiining! :D
     
    #22     Oct 5, 2009
  3. Do you have a well-tested system in place to make sure you don't give it all back again?
     
    #23     Oct 5, 2009
  4. I trade only if there's a high probability of success, and even then, things sometimes go wrong. And when they do, it's difficult not to get emotional about it.
    But hey! If you have a flawless system, I'm all ears!
     
    #24     Oct 5, 2009
  5. Looks like Oct '09 might be dangerous all right ... for the shorts.
     
    #25     Oct 6, 2009
  6. Yep, just like April. And May. And June, July, August and September!
     
    #26     Oct 6, 2009
  7. You poor guys who aren't long must be shell-shocked. The $VIX just keeps plunging. The next opportunity to short is around 1090 in the S&P, maybe higher. That's a long way up! :D
     
    #27     Oct 6, 2009
  8. Yep, can't fight rigged markets.
     
    #28     Oct 6, 2009
  9. ashantt

    ashantt

    #29     Oct 9, 2009
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    The chart above reveals two key factors:

    1) Based on P/E ratios, the stock market is grossly overvalued, even at current prices. As per Standard & Poor's research, the Q3 2009 P/E ratio is 138.97. Historically, a P/E ratio north of 20 is viewed as expensive. Also, historically, the market almost always corrects within a year of a 20+ P/E ratio. Imagine the impact of a 140 P/E ratio.

    2) The chart clearly shows that the stock market does not bottom unless P/E ratios completely reset (indicated by the red line). This was true in the 40s, 50s, 70s and 80s. In 2002 valuations were not reset. As we now know, the 2002 lows did not last. Earlier this year, valuations were not reset either. The implications are clear.

    Just as ice does not thaw unless temperatures rise above 32 degrees, the stock market does not bottom unless P/E ratios (and dividend yields) fall below the reset levels, which in turn triggers a sustainable rally.
     
    #30     Oct 10, 2009