Occupy Wall Street

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Spikekiller, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. I thought this was sort of relevant:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/oct/11/ftse-100-subsidiaries-tax-havens?newsfeed=true

    I'm not sure how the US compares with this but it shows that those with wealth are keeping it out of reach of tax while everyone else is brutally subject to taxation.
    I'm all for protecting your capital but it's a double standard when middle and lower income people can't do that because they don't have the means to open an account in the cayman islands or bermuda etc.
    If they don't pay their taxes they're subject to having their homes invaded by bailifs because they're forced to live within the taxation zone.
    The government can't oppress the upper classes (and by this I mean wealthy individuals or corporations personified) as their wealth exists outside of the government's tax jurisdiction while your regular working person taking home a typical salary gets it sliced away from their income. And because they can't deal with the upper classes their grip on their tax slaves becomes tighter. That's injustice, and it's only solvable through some kind of global revolution.
    Damnit I'm starting to sound like a marxist!
     
    #211     Oct 11, 2011
  2. That is so funny and spot on.

    :D
     
    #212     Oct 11, 2011
  3. If a protestor of any political persuasion dares to take up arms against the state, YOU will be crushed, 100X worse than TianAnMen. Fancy notions of freedom are fine and are useful as a national MYTH, but once you pose a serious challenge to the state you will 100% be kaput.

    It is impossible for any revolution in America to succeed, just like in any other country really, without at least a partial subversion of the security forces, i.e. either the Army or police.If you can break the monopoly of violence that the state holds, then you might, just might have a chance.

    Other than that, you can tear off of all your clothes, march around carrying banners, exercising your "freedom" but don't count on shit to change.
     
    #213     Oct 11, 2011
  4. GordonTheGekko

    GordonTheGekko Guest

    Quote: WFT are teachers protesting about?


    That they are fat slobs who can't buy three houses for 1.5m that they can't afford with no down payment, and are too stupid to get a bigger pay check in, but feel as though successes must pay for 49 other people in the unions.
     
    #214     Oct 11, 2011
  5. Is there a more greedy group than unions? Especially public employee unions?
     
    #215     Oct 11, 2011
  6. nitro

    nitro

    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Iu63e7QD_5k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Where are the 24 million people that are unemployed? Numbers, more numbers.
     
    #216     Oct 11, 2011
  7. Agassi

    Agassi

    This is very similar to the Anna Hazare Movement that recently happened in India. He was protesting against massive corruption in the Indian government. Here in the U.S. corruption has become legal!! i.e. bailouts etc.

    Where is Anna Hazare?
     
    #217     Oct 11, 2011
  8. zdreg

    zdreg

    socialism for the rich and capitalism for the (working) poor is the new slogan for mixed economies like the US and Western Europe.
     
    #218     Oct 11, 2011
  9. Bob111

    Bob111

    +1
    this whole thing smells like a huge pile of horse shit. how in US they come up with something like this? think about it-PUBLIC EMPLOYEE unions! they unite against what? us,the people, the tax payers. this whole thing with gvt employees unions is fucked up and should be banned once and forever.
    you work for gvt in exchange for smaller wage(smaller than same job in private sector), plus early retirement and FREE and guaranteed benefits(such as medical insurance) and guaranteed, BUT small pension(cause you retired early and can and should work after retirement. that's should be it. no need for unions. if current wage in private sector is paying less-then you should either receive less OR private subcontractor will be hired to do your job, if there is an disagreement. that simple..
     
    #219     Oct 11, 2011
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