OK, we've discussed here on many subjects except these: OBE, astral worlds, radiesthesia, telekenesis. They're all connected, but first one seems to be the most fascinating. Links: http://www.psywww.com/asc/obe/faq/obe00.html http://skepdic.com/obe.html http://www.spiritonline.com/files/messages/15/15.html http://www.biogeometry.com/radiestheia/science.htm It would be interesting to read your opinions and experiences. (i can't wait to see daniel_m, gordon gekko and stu posts! )
I don't recall ever having one of these "experiences." Personally, I think it's all pretty much a bunch of bunk. :-/ F. P.
I agree with Fruity. btw, like "your" tag > :-/ Check out these: http://www.skepdic.com/obe.html http://www.skepdic.com/refuge/ http://www.nature.com/nsu/020916/020916-8.html money makers: http://www.skepdic.com/refuge/2good.html
what about a dream? would that count as an OBE? let's say you talk to someone in your dream. you weren't actually, physically there (wherever "there" is) talking to them, but you still "experienced" talking to someone. so wouldn't that be a kind of OBE? also, have any of you guys ever had the experience of realising you were dreaming whilst still in your dream? i have. it's really cool. you're dreaming of something, then all of a sudden you think, hey man, this is just a dream. and then you can actually decide what you want to do in your dream. that's very cool. unfortunately, i have never managed to make the dream last for very long after i do this. as soon as i get some cool idea of what i want to do, i get a bit of the way through it, and then i wake up. used to happen a lot when i was young. it would be almost a year since the last time i can remember it happening now. wish i knew how to do it every night!
Not exactly - http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/7823/psychcourse2.html#21 Sleepwalking (somnambulism) is also an interesting topic. A person is unconscious, while asleep he can talk, dress, undress, eat, move around with avoiding obstacles or even drive a car! Telekenesis: some people are able to move things or change the form of metallic objects like spoons without hands, using only their own electromagnetic field, fewer people can levitate. http://www.vxm.com/21R.43.html http://www.vxm.com/21R.54.html Radiesthesia is more controversial topic. However I had one experience with this. Some time ago I've been in a place where I felt awful headache (never felt any that strong), when I left this place, it had gone. http://www.lysator.liu.se/~rasmus/skepticism/dowsing.html http://www.phact.org/e/dowsing.htm http://www.csicop.org/si/9901/dowsing.html Question to Commisso: do buddhists experience OBE?
I do believe in OBE's, but not in the pure sense of actually "leaving the body." I have had dreams that are intensely real (usually called lucid dreams). I've also had moments while drifting off to sleep where I felt my body rocking back and forth while accompanied by a weird metallic ringing sensation in my head. I just view it as the brain reaching a certain frequency or possible mild pre-sleep seizures in certain parts of the brain. I don't think there is any disconnection of consciousness, but I do believe that the state is something other than normal waking consciousness, the dream state or pure sleep states.
Aphie itâs ok, the very same thing happened to a friend they found out that the ringing noise was caused when his crash helmet the nurses make him wear, hit the computer's monitor as he slid off his chair in one of those moments of extreme out of body exuberations brought on by visiting certain "types" of web site. Try switching to the yellow pills.... it worked for him
out of body experience........ We're Only In It For The Money (The Mothers of Invention, March 1968) "Absolutely Free" Suzy: I don't do publicity balling for you anymore FZ: The first word in this song is discorporate. It means to leave your body Discorporate & come with me Shifting; drifting Cloudless; starless VELVET VALLEYS & A SAPPHIRE SEA: Wah Wah Unbind your mind There is no time To lick your stamps And paste them in DISCORPORATE And we will begin . . .WAH WAH! (Flower Power Sucks) Diamonds on velvets on goldens on vixen On comet & cupid on donner & blitzen On up & away & afar & a go-go Escape from the weight of your corporate logo! UNBIND YOUR MIND THERE IS NO TIME Boin-n-n-n-n-n-g TO LICK YOUR STAMPS AND PASTE THEM IN DISCORPORATE AND WE'LL BEGIN FREEDOM! FREEDOM! KINDLY LOVING! YOU'LL BE ABSOLUTELY FREE ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BE Dreaming on cushions of velvet & satin To music by magic by people that happen To enter the world of a strange purple Jello The dreams as they live them are all mellow yellow UNBIND YOUR MIND THERE IS NO TIME Boin-n-n-n-n-n-g TO LICK YOUR STAMPS AND PASTE THEM IN DISCORPORATE AND WE'LL BEGIN FREEDOM! FREEDOM! KINDLY LOVING! YOU'LL BE ABSOLUTELY FREE ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BE YOU'LL BE ABSOLUTELY FREE ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BE