Obama's Private Army now law. Hidden in health care bill

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jficquette, Apr 3, 2010.

  1. Only on ET do we have people who know more about stocks than Warren Buffett, and who are so politically astute that one of the key founding fathers is "naive" in comparison.

     
    #31     Apr 6, 2010
  2. Mav88

    Mav88

    I think Neo is just saying that all democracies are unstable, Franklin may actually agree especially now that we are becoming multicultural. The original USA was a federation, not a republic so that gives some sort of weight to Neo's argument. Certainly democracy is not the best form of government, but it beats many other options.

    The bottom line is that humans are still the destructive and self-serving rather-dumb creatures they were 10,000 years ago. Most people don't really want to work and produce, they would rather take and live off others. Understandable, most work sort of sucks and most people are not educated enough to do much beyond mowing your grass.

    Letting them vote themselves entitlements is a death spiral.
     
    #32     Apr 6, 2010
  3. WTF is wrong with you people? Are you so foolish that you actually believe you have a deeper understanding of this than Franklin did and do you really think he was that naive? News flash: you don't and he wasn't.
     
    #33     Apr 6, 2010
  4. Mav88

    Mav88

    I never said he was wrong, I quoted him twice, I said he 'might' agree with neo based upon the original configuration of the USA.

    You obviously didn't grasp what I said, nowhere is it at odds with Franklin.
     
    #34     Apr 7, 2010
  5. In the countries who "blew themselves out" on deficit and social spending and who have recovered... it's always the same solution... 1. SLASH GOVERNMENT SPENDING... 2. SLASH TAX RATES...

    Duh!
     
    #35     Apr 7, 2010
  6. First, you didn't quote Franklin, you just think you did by parroting something that's attributed to him but not sourced.

    Second, I doubt Franklin would agree with neo's absurd statement that I quoted above.

    Finally, if you had a clue about Franklin in general and his role in the Constitutional Convention in particular, we wouldn't be having this exchange.

     
    #36     Apr 7, 2010
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    No, redistribution is from the politics of empathy.

    I look around the capitalist world and see all kinds of socialistic reforms. It's as if the whole planet thinks the right way is some form of moderation.
     
    #37     Apr 7, 2010
  8. There's plenty of redistribution going on, but it ain't from the top going down, it's from the middle going up. The Repub version of redistribution is a ruse. It's all a shell game manipualted by the elite. They want every last dime we have.

    Edit: To be clear, the Dems are in on the scam as well. The government, both Dem and Repub want it all, every last dime, every last bit of individual rights, everything.
     
    #38     Apr 7, 2010
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    #39     Apr 7, 2010
  10. So that's why the top 1% paid more in federal taxes in 2007 than the bottom 95%?
     
    #40     Apr 7, 2010