Obamagate!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Optionpro007, May 11, 2020.

  1. I don't know what the latest word is but earlier today there were reports/rumors that the DOJ was not going to release or immediately release the names of those who unmasked Flynn's records.

    That's not saying that they are not going to be released from the intel agencies over to the doj, just that the doj may not immediately release them. I have mixed views about that. On one hand I want the scumbags outed immediately. On the other hand it gives Barr and Durham a treasure trove of material to follow up on where the targets may not know what he has. This creates more opportunities to bag some of the bad actors for perjury or other crimes. How can that be a bad thing? :cool:

    You know - there is more to this than just the unmasking of the unmaskers. Some of the clowns released the material to the press and probably to the clinton campaign too. And all of that material and the names that were redacted is classified material. Otherwise it would not be redacted.

    MORE TO COME.
     
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    #21     May 12, 2020
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  3. Tony Stark

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    8% hits sometimes.
     
    #23     May 12, 2020
  4. Tony Stark

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    Enjoy

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    2018 mid terms

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    #24     May 12, 2020
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Trumps approval rating is 43%


    On Nov 3rd 2018 Trumps approval rating was 42%. The next day Dems won The House by 10 million votes and 23 of 33 Senate races including Pennsylvania,Wisconsin,Michigan,Nevada,Virginia ,Minnesota ,Arizona and Ohio as well as red states Arizona,West Virginia and Montana and every blue state race.



    In Nov 2019 Trumps approval rating was 43%.Later that month democrats won Governors races in Louisiana and Kentucky,2 of the most conservative states in the country.Trump campaigned heavily for both GOP candidates.












     
    #25     May 12, 2020
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  6. Obamagate Is Not a Conspiracy Theory
    By DAVID HARSANYIMay 12, 2020 5:46 PM
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    President Obama at a White House press conference in 2016. (Carlos Barria/Reuters)
    There’s no reason to ignore the mounting evidence that Obama administration officials were corrupt in their handling of the Trump–Russia investigation.

    Those sharing #Obamagate hashtags on Twitter would do best to avoid the hysterics we saw from Russian-collusion believers, but they have no reason to ignore the mounting evidence that suggests the Obama administration engaged in serious corruption.

    Democrats and their allies, who like to pretend that President Obama’s only scandalous act was wearing a tan suit, are going spend the next few months gaslighting the public by focusing on the most feverish accusations against Obama. But the fact is that we already have more compelling evidence that the Obama administration engaged in misconduct than we ever did for opening the Russian-collusion investigation.

    It is not conspiracy-mongering to note that the investigation into Trump was predicated on an opposition-research document filled with fabulism and, most likely, Russian disinformation. We know the DOJ withheld contradictory evidence when it began spying on those in Trump’s orbit. We have proof that many of the relevant FISA-warrant applications — almost every one of them, actually — were based on “fabricated” evidence or riddled with errors. We know that members of the Obama administration, who had no genuine role in counterintelligence operations, repeatedly unmasked Trump’s allies. And we now know that, despite a dearth of evidence, the FBI railroaded Michael Flynn into a guilty plea so it could keep the investigation going.

    What’s more, the larger context only makes all of these facts more damning. By 2016, the Obama administration’s intelligence community had normalized domestic spying. Obama’s director of national intelligence, James Clapper, famously lied about snooping on American citizens to Congress. His CIA director, John Brennan, oversaw an agency that felt comfortable spying on the Senate, with at least five of his underlings breaking into congressional computer files. His attorney general, Eric Holder, invoked the Espionage Act to spy on a Fox News journalist, shopping his case to three judges until he found one who let him name the reporter as a co-conspirator. The Obama administration also spied on Associated Press reporters, which the news organization called a “massive and unprecedented intrusion.” And though it’s been long forgotten, Obama officials were caught monitoring the conversations of members of Congress who opposed the Iran nuclear deal.

    What makes anyone believe these people wouldn’t create a pretext to spy on the opposition party? If anyone does, they shouldn’t, because on top of everything else, we know that Barack Obama was keenly interested in the Russian-collusion investigation’s progress.

    In her very last hour in office, national-security adviser Susan Rice wrote a self-preserving email to herself, noting that she’d attended a meeting with the president, Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, FBI director James Comey, and Vice President Joe Biden in which Obama stressed that everything in the investigation should proceed “by the book.”

    Did high-ranking Obama administration officials not always conduct such investigations “by the book”? It is curious that they would need to be specifically instructed to do so. It is also curious that the outgoing national-security adviser would need to mention this meeting hours before Trump became president.

    None of this means that Obama committed some specific crime; he almost assuredly did not. In a healthy media environment, though, the mounting evidence of wrongdoing would spark an outpouring of journalistic curiosity.

    “But,” you might ask, “Why does it matter, anymore?” Well, for one thing, many of the same characters central to all this apparent malfeasance now want to retake power in Washington. Biden is the Democratic Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, he’s running as the heir to Obama’s legacy, and he was at that meeting with Rice. He had denied even knowing anything about the FBI investigation into Flynn before being forced to correct himself after ABC’s George Stephanopoulos pointed out that he was mentioned in Rice’s email. It’s completely legitimate to wonder what he knew about the investigation.

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    Skeptics like to point out that the Obama administration had no motive to engage in abuse, because Democrats were sure they were going to win. Richard Nixon won 49 states in 1972. His cronies had no need to break in to the DNC’s offices and touch off Watergate. But as the FBI agents involved in the case noted, they wanted to have an “insurance policy” if the unthinkable happened.

    In 2016, the unthinkable did happen, and we’re still dealing with the fallout four years later. We don’t know where this scandal will end up, but one doesn’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to wonder.

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    is a senior writer for National Review and the author of First Freedom: A Ride through America’s Enduring History with the Gun. @davidharsanyi
     
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  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    20% unemployment,82,000 dead and rising and Trumps focus is Obama and Flynn.No surprise...


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    #27     May 12, 2020
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  8. You got to get the rats.
     
    #28     May 12, 2020
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Keep at it my friend,keep at it.

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    Former Vice President Joe Biden has opened up a 9-point lead over President Trump in six states where Republican senators face difficult reelection battles this fall, according to a new poll.

    The survey from Hart Research Associates finds Biden at 50 percent and Trump at 41 percent among voters sampled in Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, Maine, Montana and North Carolina.

    Trump won four of those states in 2016, with the exception of Maine and Colorado. All six states feature vulnerable GOP incumbents: Sens. Marth McSally (Ariz.), Cory Gardner (Colo.), Joni Ernst (Iowa), Susan Collins (Maine), Steve Daines (Mont.) and Thom Tillis (N.C.).

    The poll found the Democratic challengers leading the Republican incumbents by a margin of 46 to 41. Republicans currently hold 53 seats in the Senate, meaning Democrats need to flip four to win back a majority.
     
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    #30     May 12, 2020